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Wally Pfister

Director and Cinematographer Wally Pfister (Transcendence, The Dark Knight) chats with Matt Schichter in Los Angeles.

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Episode #646 · Wally PfisterApril 2014 · 00:04:24

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0:01Please welcome my partner in science and in life, Dr. Will Castro. The path to build up superintelligence requires us to unlock the most fundamental secrets of the universe. Imagine an ashamed with a full range of human emotion. Its analytical power will be greater than the collective intelligence of every person in the history of the world. Some scientists refer to this as the singularity of the fesser. I call it transcendence. See if you have to, there has to be ambiguity in this. There has to be some notion of mistrust and that's why, you know, Killian's character in the beginning gives you that little nugget said,

0:51Oh, at first it was about the evasion of social media. You know, that comes from a real place, doesn't it? Yeah. I think there's fear of these machines. It's because we feel like we're being intruded upon a little bit with social media and other. Maybe we'll start there then. Yeah. Do you feel intruded upon? A little bit. I mean, look, I like social media and I like my devices and depend on them, you know, quite a bit. And they're the convenience of them, but at the same time they're asking a lot of us too. They're extracting information from us. They're constantly asking for credit cards and personal information. Where did you go to high school? You know, I'm not really comfortable giving people that information. Is that what drew you to this? I mean, getting behind the camera, I mean, obviously behind the camera you've been for years, but, but, yeah.

1:38Sitting in the chair maybe. Maybe that's how I should be sitting in the chair next to the camera, sitting side just. Why was this the project that you were like, this needs to be my directorial debut? I think that it was because of the topical nature of the material in the first place that got me really interested and excited. And the questions that seemed to ask. And then secondarily and possibly, you know, firstly was this relationship between these characters and how this technology affects these characters and what the circumstances create in the relationship between primarily the characters of Will and Evelyn and additionally the character of Max. Is this where your career goes now? Like, do I not see movies photographed by you anymore? It's probably the case, but you never say never, right?

2:26So, you know, I prefer to focus on the directing career right now. You should, because this is one hell of a movie. Let me tell people. Thank you. So, Jon, you said you're a musician. What do you play? Yeah, I play guitar as well. You too jam. Jonny plays guitar obviously. Yes, we did. Okay. And Paul Bettany plays and sings as well. Paul Bettany's got a fantastic voice. Jonny's a great guitar player, particularly slide guitar. So, did you jam? What do you play together? We spent one evening together playing in New Mexico. And Jonny and I played together briefly with the legendary Paul McCartney. We did a music video sitting together and I was the cameraman and Paul was the director and Jonny was the talent and an unbelievably surreal, you know, pinch me kind of moment.

3:13We sat and jammed for about five minutes and, you know, as I said, it was a pinch me moment and the most extraordinary experience. But, yeah, these guys are great musicians. And so, it was a really fun starting point in talking about music and, you know, kind of hanging out and discussing our likes. And Jonny plays a lot. He plays on stage with Alice Cooper, with Arrow Smith. You know, he's a prolific guitar player. I got to let you go. And it kind of leads into one of the five questions. We do some called five questions. Five good questions, one word answers. Right on. And I know the answer to the first one, but I do this with every director, film or digital. A film? Yeah. Lendinger McCartney. Oh, that's harsh. You can't do that. I'm not answering that.

3:58Okay. All right. Hitchcock or Kubrick? Kubrick. Spielberg or Scorsese? I would have to say a little bit of each combined. I would have to add a morph of the two. That's what Danny Boyle said. All right. Interesting. In one word, transcendence. Transcendence. No, I could do better than that, right? Singularity. The theme. Thank you very much, man. My pleasure. Thank you. Much appreciated.

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This interview is part of the Matt Schichter Interviews archive: more than 700 conversations with musicians, actors and filmmakers recorded between 2003 and 2014, beginning with The BackStage Pass. The archive also became Matt's short documentary Lennon or McCartney. Matt Schichter is now a Glasgow-based film producer and director. His films → · More about Matt →

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