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Tom Odell

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Episode #505 · Tom OdellApril 2013 · 00:08:38

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0:29So I shot the video of Grodermee recently when I was in Los Angeles, we went up to Malibu and did it and I worked with a brilliant director who came up with this idea that's very inspired by a film that he and I were both a fan of called Swedish Love Story, which is a 70s film, Swedish film. I just loved the idea and it's one of my favourite films and I kind of worked. The song was the first song I wrote from the album. Really? Did it inspire the lyrical content of the rest? Was there a theme that you started with when you were writing that too and they just went out from it? I wrote Grodermee and then that was the first moment I really feel like there's a record. So how old were you when did that happen?

1:15I've got all of these about three years old now. Did you have a deal? Were you talking to people? No. This is really the beginning. That was the song Grodermee that I wrote when I was in the process of moving from Brighton to London and it was the song that got me some tiny amount of attention that Lily, Alan heard. She heard that song and then wanted to come down to the show. Did she get to her? It's a very long, strange story through a chain of people and she heard it. There's a girl called Anna who kind of heard the song and then asked me for coffee. She was just like a 21-year-old girl, a day friend of mine and now and she got in contact with me

2:07and she said she might be able to help me and she sent the song to Lily and was kind of helping me out for a few... I actually never talk about her and I really should. Anna or Lily? Anna. Actually Anna was the one that got me to Lily and really helped me start with. I'm glad she's getting her shout out. This is the first time I've felt bad about that. Good. Yeah, Anna. And lots of love, Anna. Lots of love. So talking about films, you love... And it's funny when I found this Terrence Malick's Badlands. That is a messed up story, man. It's not necessarily the story. It's what it's important. Emotions. Yeah. I think it's that idea of escape. That's the thing that I can relate to of that film.

2:55It's that idea of escape and there's this willing... What's willing or... Just like a desire for more and I feel that from him. He's just desperately wants more from life. I wanted more after listening to this record. I wanted more tunes. And it seems that there are a few more in this version that I'm holding right now. Oh, he's 13. How many did you want, mate? I mean, Jesus. I want you to keep going. Just keep playing. You've got this like... Do you know Hoxley Workman? Have you heard Hoxley Workman? No. He's got this great cadence to his voice. Kind of sounds like you at times. What's his name? Hoxley Workman. He's got that same kind of vocal. It's amazing. Anywho, Lord, we have her on the show next week.

3:41Cool. I hear you think she has the pulse of the world. She's got everything out of her fingertips right now. Yeah, I think she's doing well. So what is it about her writing that really speaks to you? Well, I don't know. It's funny. I don't know huge amounts of her work. Everyone on the big song. Yeah. I know that and there's tennis court, I think. I think she's just, I don't know. I gushed about her the other day. And now everyone seems to ask me about it. I'll look at you on the show next week. Yeah. No, I think she's very good. I think, you know, she's, I want to hear some more, but she's definitely got something going on, isn't she? She's definitely, seems to be right. She's got some consciousness that's happening in this. When you hear people like that, you start the dig. Do you start writing songs in their vein? Does that spark your creative? Not to write in their vein, but does it spark your creativity to go home and say the piano and just start writing?

4:28Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Because this is... It's just refreshing to hear music like that. I think, I think sometimes, you know, you get very booked down with different types of music, but when someone just manages to just encapsulate something about what's going on at the time, I do, you know, it's very rare. It's very rare. You know, songwriters get it completely right. And I think she got it completely right. That's all I'm going to... What song, I'm going to just throw this one out of you. What song did you get it completely right on? I don't think I've got it completely right. Yeah. It's the right answer to that question. I got to let you go. So we do something called Five Questions. Five quick questions. One more answers. Ooh, I would say that I'm probably happier on the road, but I bring out the more of my potential in the studio. I'm where I belong.

5:18Cool. I think. When are you going to go back? Do you have plans? I'm going to try and get in in December for a few... We're on a big tour. Yes, you are. And it goes all the way through to December. And then hopefully I'll get ahold up in the studio for a week or two. Cool. Trying to get a load of new songs which I need to get down. Are you playing live for people here on tour? You're saying home and tell? I'm trying to play them live. What I am doing is... I'm trying to spend as much time on the day writing that in the soundcheck I do, the great thing about doing a headline is you get a nice, long soundcheck. I'm trying to get sort of... I'm trying to do like, you know, an hour of trying songs out of the band and soundcheck and then in the evening we play the album out. I think it's important, you know, people hear this record live. That's the best way to enjoy it.

6:06It's the best way to enjoy it long way down his life. Do you play it in order? I always wanted that with the first record because those are all the songs. So do you play... No, we don't. Do you do the set list? No. I always start to grow older me though. Okay. Yeah. Let it in our McCartney. Back to the five questions. Oh, okay. No. Sorry. That's all good. I don't know, man. I think that's a very tricky question. I think probably... The problem is that Lennon was cut short. So, but if McCartney had been cut short as well, I'd probably say McCartney. But because I'm not a fan of his way late stuff, you know, but I'm such a fan of like Ram and all the stuff he did on like Abbey Road.

6:53And that's my favorite Beatles stuff. But then, Lennon's solo records are just so fucking cool. I'm a massive fan of, you know, imagine. It's so difficult, man. But I do think that it's about them together was the best. I'd say them together was they needed each other, I think. When you hear a song that usually hits you first, lyrics, melody, or rhythm? Well, actually, I think it's probably... I love how these one-word answers are not one-word answers. Yeah. I think it's probably melody that gets me first and then I'll be interested. I'll get my full attention through the melody and then if the lyrics good as well, then I'll be even more attention.

7:39But I don't know. I think it depends what kind of moves I mean. Okay. It depends what I'm smoking. If someone's never heard Tom Odell, what song do they start with? Or camera man is getting attacked by me. Right. It'd be. It's fine. They've never heard time ago what songs they start with. Let me have a look. You may. I don't know. I think there's mood for everything. I think listen to Can't Pretend because that's the song I feel like I'm going more in that direction now. My new songs, that's more of a band feel and I feel like it's where I'm going with music. I feel like I'm going with band. I like the breakdown in that tune. In one word, Tom Odell. Tom Odell. It just, it's single smash together word.

8:24One word, Tom Odell. Problem. Thanks man. Appreciate it. Good talking to you.

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