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Episode #566 · Ellie GouldingJuly 2013 · 00:08:04
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0:00Hey, it's Ellie Golding and you're watching MSN exclusive. So what is Harry... let's start with this. What are we eating here? Sweets. Sweets. How many do you know about Haribo? No, are they kids? Did you get them here? Did you get them in the world? Yeah. In the world? Really? Yeah, in the world, yeah. It is. Haribo. It's like kids and grown-ups love it. So happy world of Haribo. Except the jingle. I don't understand what... you don't know them. They're these sweet.
0:45Yeah. Should I go with the store and get one? I've left the rubbish ones. No, no, no. I don't want your rubbish ones. No! I'm not going to take the ones you don't want. I don't like yellow and orange. Orange or lemon, which one? Well, any... maybe both at the same time. Same time. You live dangerously. Yeah. Now this is not how we're going to talk like this. It's not going to work. They're pretty good. Yeah. They're really chewy. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Haribo make all kinds of different sweets. There's loads of different types. I can hear my headphones as we chew. It's nice. Okay, so I'm going to ask you a question while I try and swallow these whole. How was your trip to Toronto? You were looking for a guitar on Twitter this morning. Did you find your guitar? No. But I went shopping so it's fine. What'd you get? I'm going to get you a towel tomorrow.
1:31I just got some bits and bobs to nothing special really. Bits and bobs. And then the other place was Topshop. Yes. Is that where you went? Yeah. What's this? What is Topshop? I don't even know what top. You know all these things I don't know. I feel like you're much cooler than I am. Just nods. Yes, I am. Topshop is a very popular female and male clothing line brand that they have all over the world now. And it's sort of a campaign fronted by Kate Moss for a while. She did a lot of stuff for them. And it's pretty affordable, but it's really cool. Really, really cool stuff. I've got some fun stuff. You actually got this. Yeah. There you go. What number is it? You're lucky number? Just the number that was on the jersey. I like even numbers though.
2:16Just the number that was in the jersey. The strange questions I'm going. I'm going to stop. Burn. Tell me about burn. I want to know about burn. Burn is my new song which I wrote with Ryan Tedda. One Republic. One Republic. And also he's written some of the best songs in the whole world. So I'm very lucky to work with it. So what does he bring to your writing process that Jamelia doesn't? How do you work differently with Ryan? Jim wasn't really, I wrote a lot of my own lyrics and whereas Jim would produce, whereas I write with people, with writers sometimes. The Jim stuff was all me writing and Jim kind of producing and kind of vibing. That's what I call it, vibing together. And when you're writing, do you have a place you go to write?
3:03Do you have a room that you write? What happens? Just different studios depending on what city I'm in or all sorts of different studios. But Jim's place was up in the, literally up in the mountains. I think he's moved now but it was like a little studio made from a barn. Like a studio that came out of a barn thing. So it was pretty cool, very country-fied. Does that lead to the process of writing more insular lyrics? If you're a little more away from everything, are you still trying to encompass? I think you end up naturally, when you're not listening to any music and there was no internet, no phone, so you end up, yeah, do writing stuff and you have no idea whether people were relate or enjoy the music or whatever. It's very self-indulgent and then I send it like a track to a friend or to my management and they're like, this is awesome.
3:53So I thought, okay, well, I think I'm on the right track. What did they say when you sent them a burn? My manager wasn't sure about it at first. Yeah, but it grew on him and rightfully so, I think it's an awesome song. Yeah, I'm really pleased with this one. Does it sound like, when I hear Ryan Teder, I have a sound in mind. Am I right with this or does it sound like that? No, I don't think so. Okay, good. It's very different. I was surprised when I heard part of it. I was surprised that he'd written it but it's just a great song. You're doing a very good job being coy and not giving anything away. Well, I mean, I think it goes on to SoundCloud tomorrow, so you'll be able to hear it fine.
4:38Oh, here we go. I think so, yeah. I think so. And there's a video people can help with Vine. Yes. I just got Vine yesterday. Oh, yeah. And I kind of thought maybe we can shoot something for it right now. Are you okay with that or no? Okay, yeah, sure. I had it like eight to go. I absolutely got one. I know I am. Told you. Why don't you show me how to do it then? Why don't you take some vines? Don't just point it out. You love to run. So back to the songwriting just for a second. When you're running, are you zoning out? Is that your time for me time? Because I know a lot of people that either run or swim songwriters in the morning to get in the zone and just because you can just flow through lyrics and you're by yourself and you can just keep going. Do you find it as a working conversation? I don't run for lyrics.
5:24I just run for me and for my body. I don't ever think of lyrics when I'm running ever. It's just that I'm so concentrating on my root and how fast I'm going and my pace and all sorts of stuff. So yeah, I don't really think, I do zone out but only in a way that I just think about the job at hand, the task, rather than being like, oh, this and that. What about for this tour? What can we expect? I mean, you're on the road. You're used to playing these massive venues now. Weirdly I am. I've never done a stadium tour and I've never obviously done a, I've never done a marine chomp, never done a stadium tour, but I have played them a lot.
6:09Yeah. From doing shows and concerts and support slots and all kinds of things. So, you know, considering like I'm, you know, where I am and not to the point that planes, arenas, I've had a pretty good time, stuff like that. What do you learn from, what do you take from watching Katy Perry or you two work these crowds and try and hit everyone in the back? I mean, it's a difficult job to hit 2,000 people, right? You learn a lot, you learn a lot about what works and what doesn't, I think. And you do want to reach everyone. What if you learn doesn't work? Swearing. No, really. Swearing doesn't work. Does that work better in a club than a big venue? Or does it not work at all? I, I, my fans love it when I swear because I think I'm like, it's out of character so they laugh and think it's funny, but I think, I think, you know, just like, it's shouting a lot works, being happy and smiling works, not muttering, I've muttered a few things.
7:08I said that Bruno Mars is sexy and, but I mutted it so it's a bit shy. So, yeah, stuff like that. Five quick questions, one word answers. Road or studio? Studio. Lending or McCartney? McCartney. When you hear a song what usually hits you first, lyrics, melody or rhythm? Lyrics. Song you've written your most proud of. And it can happen. In one word, Ellie Gould. Silly? Silly? I like that. Silly! It's like, sitting is very little. Cool. I thought we just said no swearing.
7:55He'll beat that anyway. Yeah, no I won't actually.
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