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Episode #584 · BastilleAugust 2013 · 00:12:37
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0:06Hey, we're Bastille. Or Bastille. You're watching Emma. Ah. That's done so well. I've got a little card and everything. One sentence. MSN exclusives. Hi, we're Bastille and you're watching MSN exclusive. You put your eyes. Who doesn't know? So, Bastille with the video was Dan is a prime athlete. We discovered. So this required showcasing. Yeah, we've got a better video around Dan running. Yeah.
0:51I got with her. When we were planning the video, I got really into the idea of being this sort of slightly post-apocalyptic thing that was sort of gestured towards something, some sort of big dramatic event. Like, obviously, like a volcano up thing, but not something else. And so I got really into the idea and the script was awesome. And I just massively overlooked the fact that I had to play the lead character. So suddenly, I was on the set of this video and they were like, right. So now your motivation is you're furious and you're scared. And I'll kick the car. I had to start kicking and smacking this poor unsuspecting car in the middle of the desert. But it was from that moment onwards, the next two days of my life, I was like, oh, I'm acting. This is awful.
1:37And I'm running, which I also can't do. And this potentially going to be seen by a few people. It's a matter of time until Hollywood comes calling, I feel. I'm using that. Well, David Lynch, right? Didn't you meet at one of you met him recently? Yeah, I met him. I'm sorry, I had to do it. There it is. Right after the beginning of David Lynch. Yeah, no, we did a remix of one of his songs off his new album, which was insane to be able to do. And then, off the back of that, we were in Los Angeles, back in July, ended up going to his studio house thing and just hanging out for an hour and having some coffee, which was wicked. Even the cover of the record, it was just telling you guys. It kind of reminds me of Lost High. And I was obsessed with that soundtrack. Back when people still bought the actual CD soundtrack, I remember those days.
2:23And the pumpkins had the song, I on it. And I just love that tune. And what's interesting about this record, too, is I like the little film thing at the bottom. But so, Weight of Living Part 1 is not officially on here, but it's at the end, nonetheless. So Weight of Living Part 2 is in the middle of the record. Part 1 closes the record. This is reversed from what I would expect. Whose idea was this and why? Yeah, it's a bit weird, isn't it? Did you just rename the titles? Or did that song have to sit in the middle? But it was the second half. No, the part one came first and then part two. It's basically, I had almost too many ideas for a song. So it became, I wanted it to, then very much came two songs. This is not very clear, as an answer. But with Weight of Living Part 1, I think it's a bit more optimistic than Weight of Living Part 2.
3:09And so I kind of wanted to end the album on a lighter note. Right. With a bit of optimism. It sounds almost like, because I mean, it closes half the record. And Icarus could almost be like, if this was vinyl, the opening, like it's got a nice intro that it could be the second side. Was that kind of the thought process at all or no? Yeah, we wanted it to sort of almost feel like a bit of an interlude and then to sort of restart again. It's a hard decision, because it's our first album. We had more songs than we wanted to put on the album. The actual process of picking the track test thing and what songs we're going to make it and what was I found really difficult. Did those like, flaws in Icarus go back really far, right? And so did those two have to, where those, they always had to be on the record, even though they were kind of out there already? I mean, no, no, that was, I remember that being a point of,
3:57there was a time where, and it's interesting now, chatting to other bands who have had the same experience of us and having songs that have been out for a while before their albums released, that I think everyone goes through, well, we went through a phase of being like, all right, let's not put on any of the early singles and try to keep the album completely new, because kind of for your fans, you want people who like music, you want to give them something new. I like, you know, from, as a music fan, like when you get an album, you want to hear 12 new tracks. So I was kind of quite reluctant to put all those songs over then. Then at the same time, I think that's potentially quite narrow-minded because I've, you know, I think you have to kind of hope that when you release your album, you're going to be reaching more people than you would. It seems to have happened with Bad Blood, which I think. Yeah, yeah. That worked out well.
4:42I think we sort of kind of had that debate and then we're like, well, no, we should just, we should, this should be a collection of what we think is the best stuff we've done up till now. Anticipating, hopefully, more than just the small fan base that we already have might maybe get into it. Right. What was the fan base? The fans of Montreal pronounced the name correctly, because it's a French word best tea. And I keep hearing all these US interviews, bestiele, bestiele. We pronounce it. We pronounce it. We pronounce it wrong too. It's definitely bad tea, but we are English and our French accents are appalling, so we just kind of get up. But you won't do the full L like the Americans either, because of your accents. Like they'll say Bastille. All right, we should Bastille. Bastille? Yeah. You get the EO. I mean, we're good. Anyway, nuance to the language.
5:27It was interesting for us. When we first left England and did some gigs in Europe and everyone sort of horrified our pronunciation. But, you know, at least we're aware of it. If we were kind of just completely ignorant, that would be bad. Right. We're kind of knowingly terrible. Kyle, you know, I was looking through the thing. You don't play on the record. So what was the hardest thing to learn? What was the most difficult song to learn? Or what was the easiest song to learn? The hardest was these streets. How come? It's like a rain man impression. I can't really, I can't explain it. It would just take too long and be so boring. Fair enough. But I didn't, you know, like classical piano teachers like it can't be an answer. I'd never be able to play it. Because I saw what I was getting out the scratch of it. I got this like, I got this like, constantly training, like music, extraordinary student sort of person who's trying to teach me.
6:14And he was like, I was trying to explain to him what I was playing and how I could better, how I could make it easier. He was like, I don't know anyone who could probably maybe even play that. And so maybe me not being constantly trained helped. Because, and so like in these streets, if you see any videos or whatever, that's the course where I'm sort of playing. And I go, LAUGHTER And of course, I'm like, oh, what do you do? Can you have me eyes now? Because there was a long time where you couldn't like me. I can have my eyes before I slept up, but at first. Because he has to play, like, something quite difficult in his hand, an offbeat rhythm there, and sing, back in my course, all at the same time. And because of the way that a lot of the albums were recorded, it was sort of pieced together. And a lot of the parts were, you know, they'll be like, the drums as well, they'll be kind of
7:00lots and lots of counter rhythms that aren't necessarily intended for long time. Well, not intended, but intended for long time to play. They weren't kind of thinking about it when you're just programming stuff, you know, necessarily thing. Oh, one day someone's got to play this live. So, um, Tends up. Yeah, so what did you think when you came on board? Well, um, so, well, I play on thing half of it. Yeah, that's three clubs are up. But the title track was the hardest one for me. Because that was program drums. It's gonna be kind of hip-hop here and that sort of stuff. So, like a real kid wouldn't have sounded right. However, there's two different bass drum sounds in it. Now I've got to do some, it's, again, a bit of a rain man sort of vibe. You've got to just try and not think about what you're doing. If you do, I've got how I learned doing this in this particular order and then it all just goes and falls apart. Sometimes we do, like, when we're doing new stuff, you see him, like, his brain try to program, try to, like, work out how the hell he's gonna do it all.
7:48And sometimes he goes and just, like, melt down as well. Well, because we don't know, because we usually stand in the setting. Yeah, literally, like, I said, I said, I know do that, no, no, no, no, hit this one now. Which is probably not the best way to do it. No, he goes the best way. That's how it makes him sound really sharp. That's kind of a nurturing process, really. I think, really cocky on my bass lines are well easy. But you play keys in the record too, right? I don't plan the record. I play live. I lied to Dan. I joined, like, when I first met Dan, I really wanted to do it. Like, it was the first time in ages I'd seen a band that I actually really wanted to be in. And I was like, I've got to get a discie. And so I went down to meet the guys and stuff. And I was like, and I was like, oh, you can kind of need someone who can sing. I'd never, something like that. Yeah, I'm pretty good singer. I'm never singing my life. And also, you could play a bit because I had to play that too. And so the day after I went and spent £50 on an Argos keyboard,
8:35this is still the only keyboard I heard. I'm at home right now. Only the finest. You'll never know. You know, it's now. I just gave it a bit of a cat out of the bag. So I'll get the live show. Everyone can play really well. I've seen you guys. So it's awesome. Thanks. I don't know where this is going. It's all smoke and mirrors, really. Yeah. So touring with Muse and playing, like, a lot of these songs would lend themselves to those amazing stadiums. Like, song, like, Laura Palmer would just, I could just feel it blowing one of those places up. So what was it like touring with them? What did you learn from them as performers, given that this is like the first world tour? I mean, I think it's interesting. It was a really interesting experience, but we couldn't really feel. I think in a lot of the situations where at the moment we feel kind of, I don't know, not on why they in a sort of self-flagellating way, but more like, I don't know, the way
9:20so at the beginning of what we're doing. And then to go on the tour with someone like Muse, and they're like five, six albums in, and they've got giant robots and frame-roads. Five more than the sky. Frame-roads and fireworks and lasers and everything. And loving light bulbs with acrobats coming out the bottom. Yeah, really. Yeah. Oh, wow. And then there's us, and we're like, we've got a keyboard. Dan jumps around a bit. Yeah. It was kind of, I don't know, I guess that's the point of being a support band. Like, you know, you're meant to be new and nothing like that. But it was really interesting. I think there's something so, in a good way, so dramatic, and over the top of what they do. And I think that's kind of, when you like fully embrace the stadium show, that's kind of the route that you go down. But I thought it was quite funny. We just, as before we were doing those gigs, had our new backdrop thing made,
10:07which we thought was the biggest thing we'd ever seen. It's like enormous. And then we went up in the stadium. It's like one-twenty of the world. Yeah. So I put Post-It on the back of the stadium. Well, it's a good thing. It's amazing. But it was, yeah, I mean, it was just so way beyond anything we'd ever done before, and in terms of scale. And yeah, they were really nice guys. And they were like one of Woody's favourite bands growing up. So it was kind of an amazing thing to do. Woody has a collection of hangeries, photographs, took little photos of their face and put them on. And he wanted to get them signed. And we're like, dude, that's just the way. You got to get them signed on the chest of the actual band. I love the outfit themselves, hang on. Will gets bored in interviews. So for the past six months, he's been making up these relationship rumours and lies about me. So apparently, I know the names of all their kids.
10:53I don't. Been caught going through their bins. It's funny seeing Woody get defensive over me. Because he's so clearly not. But if you can say it in a time, it's true. I've done a poetry, apparently. I've done sau as well. I've got tattoos on my back. All right. That one's easy to disprove. Yeah. Just stuff to get you. Must be good. All right. Well, this is getting weird. Yeah. Road or studio? Road. Road. I'm very much part of the road. Well, maybe the next record. Maybe. Definitely a nice record. I know. Oh, I don't know. Studio road. Yeah, both. It's hard. That's so different. Leonard or McCartney? Oh. Leonard. Leonard. McCartney.
11:38Ooh. There's the one. When you hear a song that usually hits you first, lyrics, melody or rhythm? Rhythm. Melody. Rhythm. If someone's never heard bestie before, I'm going to pronounce it in French. What song do they start with? The first one. Bad blood. The silence. Icarus. What's the first one? I'll say flows. In one word, bestie. French. French. That's the first. Band. Oh, you picked all the best words. All of them. All of the words. Literally all of the English language. You've chosen so eloquently. Music.
12:25Thanks guys.
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