Matthew Goode & Allen Leech

0:09This war, we're not winning it. If you speak a word of what I'm about to show you, you will be executed for high treason. It's beautiful. It's the greatest encryption device in history and the Germans use it for all communications. Everyone thinks Enigma is unbreakable. Let me cry and we'll know for sure. Mr Turing, do you know how many died because of it? Three, while we've been having this conversation. We've come up with a movie. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. A couple of nights. Have you seen it yet? Yes. You have. Okay. What are you excited for an audience to see? Is there a scene that stands out? I just really want to see a feel the audience reaction watching the movie because I watched it alone. As did you. Yeah.

0:55Which is nice. It's nice. But it will be lovely to see it on the kind of field. Feel it with an audience. Yeah. Do you see what? Because there's always going to be lights and shades and there's never a sense of whether I was laughing at the right moment when I was watching on my own. It was generally unfortunately when I came on to the screen. But no, it's nice to sit. I think that I think you can feel when an audience is moved. And so it's kind of knowing it's kind of working out whether you share the same thoughts as somebody else. When you have a character with a duality, I don't want to give anything away. Is it easier, is it more fun for you as a performer to know that you have to hide that in the background for the first half of the movie? Or would you rather go in with not knowing? No, I prefer to know. I think it's because sometimes you know, especially I do a TV show as well.

1:41So sometimes you find something out about your character that you think I probably should have known that six episodes ago. Yep. So that can kind of be hinted. So I much prefer to know. And it automatically influences how you play certain things. I was watching an interview with you this morning. And you said the bravest actors you see make very strong choices in relation to their performance. So I'm wondering what choices you guys made for these characters. Wow. That's really interesting. I mean, I suppose in some ways there was, you know, you do your research. And I felt quite happy but tied to the material, in fact I had some huge amount of room to, and I didn't want to embellish upon somebody who was already in a amalgam of certain, I think, other characters that were working there. So he wasn't one specific. He was a real person, but I think he was doing multiple different jobs that were done by other people within the context of the film.

2:30But the choices that I made I suppose just smoke as much, well, Morton made the choice that I should be smoking as much as possible to give authenticity to the era. Are you a smoker? I'm now on the electrics, but I'm sorry I think because of that experience. Oh good, it's six in the morning. I think as well there's a certain responsibility you have when you play someone real or someone who's, or a character who's based on real people. So you can't really have, you don't have the freedom to maybe take such grand big jumps that you normally would when you were playing solo and fictional. And there wasn't a lot of material that we could actually look up because a lot of the records have been destroyed and a lot of the people who were involved and still around, which there are very few who were working at Bletchley, are completely tight-lipped about it, you know, in the 90s.

3:16So they weren't talking about it, which is thrilling, although slightly annoying. But what was I suppose, you know, I don't know. We did our work and a lot of our stuff is quite reactionary to what's going on with Alan and what Benedict was doing and you know, he talked about strong choices. He made some very strong choices, which I think I did see coming from the script, but I think what was great is when someone plays a character who, and it's always an element to when you do something where you want to be on the, you know, if it's a difficult character, it'd be likable to play something like it was like, well, I think it was great about what Benedict was actually to show that I'm not here to be liked, you know, he's a puzzle and he didn't, he makes it difficult to like at certain points at the film. We'd go on a similar journey as to our character, I think trying to go with the, but who is this guy? Why is he so arrogant?

4:02You know, and eventually we went up on the same page. When we were looking up, we had two weeks of rehearsal, which made a huge difference. I've been able to watch every actor. I felt very lucky to sit in that room with Matthew as Benedict and with Matthew Beard and care towards the end. And then we'd get a sense of, you know, how the actors were developing their characters. Yeah. It was very special. All very different as well. All very fluid from day one, which is really nice. I'd love to keep talking about that. I gotta let you go. So we do something called five questions. Five quick questions. One word answers. One word answers. One word. Script or improv? Script. Improv. Stage or screen? Stage. Screen. Lenny or McCartney? Lenny. Lenny. H.Garker Kubrick. H.Gark. H.Gark. I'm a bash. H.Garker.

4:47It's a big one there. It's a big one. It's a big word as I can get. I'm a turing. Turing's better. Thanks. I think all of that. Alan. That way, double. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. We're going to appreciate it. Thank you. Totally just need them.