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Interview · April 2013 · Toronto

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Musician Kerli (Walking on Air, The Lucky Ones) chats with Matt Schichter in Toronto.

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Episode #502 · KerliApril 2013 · 00:11:49

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0:00Hey, this is Karole and you're watching Amazon Exclosives. We are! I can't not mention your outfit because this is amazing. Thank you. What is this and where...

0:45You designed a lot of your clothes because this is not one of yours. Yeah, I actually hand make a lot of stuff but this is a gift from this amazing French designer. Her line is called Kiss Me, Kill Me. And she's a little cute anime girl and I found her things online and I was like oh my god and I hit her up and I was like oh my god I'm such a massive fan and she was like that's awesome because all my clothes are inspired by you can I send you some things. So next thing I knew the big box arrived from France and filled with stuff like that. So what do you look for? It's pretty nice. When you're creating designs I guess that are kind of similar to this in a way. Very colorful and very I don't know what poofy. Elaborate. Elaborate, that's how it works. Yeah I like that. I don't know. Actually when I make things I usually start with like when I created that when you've seen

1:37my videos, your gravity like the gay shallow like I handmade that look. That kind of I sketched it first but usually I don't sketch it first. Usually I have a material like right now I have 50 gift wrappers in like iridescent silver. So something is going to happen on that but I don't know yet. So I'm just going to you know start bending and gluing and kind of messing around. I have the body forms in my house. My house pretty much looks like a it's like a music studio slash costume rental slash like there's a bed as well. Which looks like a spaceship. I have a glitter bed and yeah you know I just kind of I like to be in the flow. I don't really plan things too much like when I make things or when I write music I don't really

2:25plan too much. I just kind of go and then it's done. I was going to how is designing clothes similar to making music? Is it similar? Um I guess just you know to me it's like life and work and all of these things are kind of blended together. So I kind of just you know kind of just go do everything at the same time. And I actually don't like to kind of kind of add so I don't really like to you know work on a song for two days until it's done. Like I'll write a little bit and then I'll go make some shoes and then I'll go cook lunch and then I'll write a little more and then usually like I'll turn in like three songs at the same time because I'm being just going like back and forth. Well the songs I'll be of the same theme. Are you writing different things about and putting words that maybe for this song here

3:14and this song there? Yeah totally different. It's different every time. But I just kind of like I don't separate like life and work and art and stuff. It's all the same. Is it always in English? In Estonia and that can't be your first language. I mean your English is very good don't get me wrong. Yeah I pray in English. I write in English. I dream in English. So yeah. When you were first I know you're a big Siguros fan as am I. They have a made up like. Siguros! Oh my god. But they don't they chose to just make up their own language all they're saying because no one's going to understand them and that's not. So how come you chose to go English? I don't know I guess I signed to a major label when I was 18 years old and it kind of wasn't a question from me. They just said you're going to be sick of it. You know because if I would have turned in something like I mean it wasn't even a thought. If I would have turned in something like hey guys here's the language I made up.

4:00Why don't you get that all over the radio they would have been like. I mean it's getting my stuff on the radio anyway it's been a big struggle for them. Starting isn't it? Huh? Is it starting? Yeah I guess I guess the lucky ones is kind of. It's a hit. It's a hit song. I guess people are liking it. I guess people are liking it yeah it's nice. Can't control the kids. I'll be a hit song too. Can't control the kids. I know I can't wait for it to come out. How's your fun your crowdsourcing going? Crowdsourcing. Well I hear you need a lot of money. You have a video in mind you need some money for it. Well yeah but I mean I don't need that much money. I mean I just have to do it. Everything in the end comes down to somebody says yeah that's going to cost you you know 300 grand and I'm like actually it's going to cost me 20 and here's how we're going to shoot it. Here's how we're going to build a small here's how I can get the cheapest paint.

4:47It's like I feel like a lot of people my biggest struggle is that there aren't enough people that that are like anything is possible you know like I performed the show in Estonia and I like rose. I was rising like you know 30 feet with like a dress that kind of like unfolded and so when I was like high up there the dress was and I called up my mom and I was like mom I needed to help me make that dress and my mom was like it's impossible and I'm like actually it's not impossible think about it like we went we got bathroom pipes we got fabric like we made it happen. So to me it's like the biggest struggle in the world is you know not having enough people that are saying you know everything is possible it feels like it's always like oh no we can't do that and

5:33I'm like of course we can you know so. I like that segue because we're going to play a game. Okay. I wonder how good your North American culture and and languages. Oh my god. Because you're bubble goth as you have on your rings there that I shook weirdly earlier. There it is. So we're gonna play a game called bubble. Goth bubble it's got a little bit of a mess. Goth bubble you got backwards. You got a little messed up. There we go. Anything's possible. Because I ordered them and. Okay so there are questions the answer is either bubble or curly. Always. Or bubble or goth. No. Doesn't work. I couldn't find any words that had goth in it. Okay. Bubble or curly. Bubble or curly. Chewing gum that you can blow circles with is bubble gum or curly gum. Bubble gum. Oh that's an easy one. The three stujas are Larry, Mo and.

6:18Curly. Michael Jackson's monkey's name was. Pebbles. Bobbles. Bobbles. Bobbles. Seinfeld has an infamous episode about a boy. Was it curly boy or bubble boy? I have no idea. Bubble boy. Bubble boy is correct. Transforming delicate materials they're wrapped in bubble wrap or curly wrap. Definitely curly wrap. Bubble wrap. Definitely curly wrap. Okay. I found the pink bubble wrap that's going to be the next outfit. Really? Yeah. Okay. Curly wrap. That's correct. I like okay. A type of french fries or curly fries or bubble fries. Curly fries. Another word for champagne is bubbly or curly. Bobly. A John Hughes movie from 1991. Curly Sue or bubbly suit. Um bubbly suit? Curly Sue.

7:04Really? Yeah. Yeah. Canadian TV show character from trailer park boys. Bubbles or Curly's? Bubbles. Bubbles correct. It's time to unwind. Do you have a bubble bath or a curly bath? A curly bath. Yeah you wouldn't have a curly bath. That's true. Okay. Amazing. It's glitter and it glows in the dark. Really? That sounds fun. Just took it last night. That's a curly bath. Yeah. Um Michael I was thinking the bubbles thing. You've worked in MJ studio. Michael Jackson studio. That's where you made utopia. Very quickly. That's where most utopia is made in a week. Yeah. Does a room like that influence a different atmosphere? Knowing that he was there. Does that happen? You know what I don't even know if it was the knowing that he was there but there was definitely something in the air. Like we just felt so insanely inspired and also you know we were very

7:51conscious about the energy overall like when making utopia. I we had I mean I just there was no space for like any negative energy at all. We had people we had friends come over we'd have drinks in the studio which is be like just come party like bring good energy and you know which is go. So I wanted I really wanted to capture I don't think I had any negative thoughts or energy in my head or around when this music was recorded. Like I was truly truly trying to channel like all positive vibes. Are you doing that for the next one? I mean I know this record was made like mixed master like a year ago. Yeah. Well the next one actually I'm noticing that I'm you know I'm always writing tons of music. I'm noticing that I'm actually touching more I'm going into like more darker spaces again.

8:42Which is fun for me because for with utopia I don't know for some reason like I physically could not write like an introverted like I couldn't be fragile. I felt like very I wanted to channel like that euphoric you know like when I go play these electronic music festivals like I'll play my set and then I'll go and I'll party with all all you know rage with the kids. So it's not like you know it's not separated like I wanted to channel something that when I was recording and writing utopia I was kind of always putting myself in like their bodies. Interesting you know you're not doing that much for this punkier raw one. That I hear you. So what do you know everything about me? I like my job. Yeah I don't I mean we'll obviously see where it's gonna go but I'm definitely I have the first

9:31song made done so I'm kind of I'm actually doing it after hours I'm not even telling my label that I'm doing it I just couple I found a couple producers that I like working with and I go in at like 9 p.m. And we'll just make music and I'll by the time my label will ask for this album we'll be ready so. And are you sitting at the piano like where do you gravitate to when you start? Oh just different stuff always yeah I I like start a lot of concepts in my house and stuff and then I'll go and work with somebody who's like amazing with sounds and stuff but sometimes sometimes there's like you know well I mean god my favorite way of working I mean it's very like organic it's very in the flow because a lot of a lot of um a lot of sessions are kind of held in

10:18a way where like an artist goes in and then the producer has the track and then the artist will like you know write the melody or lyrics and sometimes they'll usually they'll like bring other top liners in the studio with you to kind of help you craft the songs I don't do that so when I go in with the producer then we'll just kind of start playing around and then we have a melody sometimes we'll make a track and then I'll go and jam on it which is how I always write like I'll just go in the song post and I'll just go sometimes like a whole song comes sometimes we'll write a whole song and then we'll scrap the whole track and build a whole new track and then we're like oh actually this chorus doesn't work so we'll build a whole new chorus so it's just like it's it's in the movement and in the flow like completely until it's done so if I that's why I can't really

11:04work with like people that are boxed in with their kind of ways you know so I want to keep talking but I know you got other stuff to do so five quick questions one word answers okay road or studio road touring or yeah okay oh studio Landon or McCartney Landon when you hear a song what usually hits you first lyrics melody or rhythm lyrics song you've written you're most proud of skyscraper and in one word curly free

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