The Head And The Heart

0:36in a shower. Certain to shower? Yeah. Just like a dressing room, like a locker room shower. Okay. Just like backstage at a show in. What do you have? Do you have a melody or do you have words or what? I had it all. I wrote it all there in the shower. Really? You bring the guitar to the shower? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was like everyone was backstage doing whatever you do, what is the time before a show. We can just kind of hear him like an offer in the distance. And then the shower. Yeah. Does the songs come off and in the shower? A lot of melodies do. I don't know if they do any more than any other area actually.

1:21So the video. We were talking about the video a little bit before. Yeah. Yeah. So I did an epic baric reek. Studios in Seattle. But it is like a sweet vibe. Obviously, like if you watch the videos, you know, it's like this little barn out in the middle of the woods pretty much and it would be awesome to record things that way. But you can't waste as much time as we did recording this song. Did you waste a lot of time? We just spent a lot of time in the studio because we were the songs finished beforehand or were they still being written as time I took a while. Like two thirds of the songs maybe. Yeah. We're finished. There's like, yeah, there's like three or four songs on the record. Then either like we just hadn't

2:09worked on as a band or that like someone wrote while we were in the studio and brought it in and got all finished up. Well, just back to Shake for a second just because I love Chris's bass part. Yeah. That's it's got me hooked in my dude. Yeah. Dude. I feel like he yanked that from Group Love. But not as if you guys Group Love comes up somehow. Big Group Love fans. I mean, I'm not going to say no. I'm not a big but no. I that's surprising when they come up all that often because I haven't really we we toured with them for like a week in Australia and they're they're fucking great. But but that's like the only time I've ever seen like any influence, you know, from that. I don't know. Interesting. It is a sweet bass line. I find it also interesting that Shane goes into cruel to get this big hit song jammy vibey and then cruel like just really

2:57slows it down. How can I track a set like that on the record? Because it feels good. It feels good. Maybe that's how you sequence the record is you. What's in the song and you go like where does my mind end up when this song finishes and like and what feels what you know we spent like a few weeks arguing back and forth over like every single you know what song goes best towards the beginning of the record towards the end of the record. Like this song clearly has to come after that song. You know like what's the best opener. I was like the most controversial but yeah just the sequence of the record like hugely affects like how you view songs strangely enough. You know if you or how you view the record like if we opened up with springtime for example and it starts off with

3:46that. Is that what you're opening with or summertime? Maybe shows but like on the record if you start with that then it's like oh they're making an electronic record but you start with but but that's like only one of 13 songs. So you put it somewhere where like it feels more natural and doesn't kind of like set the tone. So sequence of the record is pretty important to think about. I just love the opening line too and how I'm coming here is it. Now I know people want a story. It's a great way like it's a great opening line for a record like it almost had to sit first. Yeah well that was I feel like who wrote that one on youtube. Who's that? That one's like bands at like any different you know at you know any level but like as you start gaining some sort of notoriety as a band or as you know a person in any sort of like public walk of life you you have to deal with a lot

4:34of people viewing you not as like a human but as like a thing that they can like tear down or that they can like ascribe motivations to even if those you know even if there's no like basis in reality for them you know and it was just kind of like it was like growing the hands of a band. Do you guys gravitate to the can or guitar or just switch with others when you write typically? Like where do the songs start for each of you? Do they start differently? Yeah I go through phases. For this record at least. No that's what I'm saying. Okay like over the course of like a few months like it could be like an acoustic guitar or piano or like now right now I'm coming up with

5:19everything that I'm coming up with is like in sound check kind of hearing it in a big space back going back at me on guitar but like as opposed to like being in a tiny room just by yourself like hearing it in there is what kind of gets my brain working I feel like it's totally different for each other. Different of your time. Ah changes it just depends. Yeah there's no there's no like formula so much is just you have to be looking with whatever be looking for songs that are that will come to you if you're looking and what if you're not. We do something called five questions five quick questions one more answers both you can answer. Roder Studio.

6:07Ah studio. I was thinking. Wow that's tough one. Today. Today definitely studio. Let me know what cartney. Oh it's easy. Is it easy? Everyone says that's hard okay which one for you? It's too easy. Lemon. Ah I'm more of like a Harrison kind of guy. Cool. When you hear a song what usually hits you first lyrics melody or rhythm. Melody lyrics. Someone's never heard the head in the heart before what song do they start with? I feel like on the last record for me it was down in the valley and

6:59this one is probably another story. Cool. Yeah I don't know. But ultimately I feel like I kind of would prefer that they listen to the album in the order that it comes. In one word described the head in the heart. And that's a I can't answer. Every band gets the same five questions. I can't answer that question. The life is much more complex than one word. That's a good answer. That's like that. That's well. Jonathan. Yeah. I'm sick of talking about this band in all honesty. I'm not answering that question man. I hate talking about our band. What do you want to talk about? I want to go to

7:48sleep. You want to go have a little nap before the show? Alright well that's your episode. Thanks guys. Thank you. I was napping actually.