Hey Rosetta!

Part 1

0:00Few on 90.3, this is 16th Ave. Well, the soon to be biggest band in Canada. Hey Rosetta's in studio. I'm telling you, it's starting. I know it, I can feel it. And I wish we had got you guys in last time, but I heard about you, I think, three days after you came through town last time. And I was like, oh, that hurts. But you're back tonight and we're excited to have you here. And the show got moved because I guess there was roof problems with the Republic. Do you guys know what happened? No, we only heard that the roof came in. Yeah. Do you know what happened? No, I was been raining here for like three weeks. So I assume it has something to do with that. But you're in a really cool room, really funky kind of room. Yeah, I heard it's in the magazine. It's like a 70s disco. You'll see when you get there. It's nice. But let's start with a tune that people know what you guys sound like, something off the new record.

0:45Who wants to choose one? Why don't we listen to Ivan and Sleep for a long, long time? There you go. Possibly a first single I've heard. Maybe. Possibly, yeah. That's just being thought. We're all confused about singles. Really? Yeah. What would you choose if you had a choice? It would probably be that one, I guess. It works. Yeah, I think it works. It's six minutes long. Well, they might need an editor, too, for radio, but that's fine. But there's no more really to edit it either, now that I think about it. Because all your songs have noticed they dip, and they get bigger, and they build. And I love that. But you can't really cut that, because then you're cutting the essence of a song. That's kind of how we feel, yeah. Because Taro's that I've been asleep for a long, long time fuel, 90.3. And asleep for a long, long time.

2:44And you have all been. 0.3.

7:06This is 16th Ave. I'm Matt. I've got the guys from Hey Rosetta live in the studio. Let's go back to the record, though. You had an EP. And a lot of bands, when they have an EP, and they put out their first full length, they revisit some tunes. You guys decided not to at all. How come? Well, I guess the EP actually used to be a full length. OK. That we sort of recorded on our own. And then we signed on with Sonic records and health acts. And they wanted to turn that full length into an EP. And so we chose seven tunes from that, and remixed and remastered them, and repackaged it, and released it across Canada. So those songs, we've been living with those songs for a while. And they've already sort of had a couple incarnations. How old are they?

7:52Well, we recorded it in what? December, January, February, March. What, 2006? In the end of 2006, is that right? It was like the first recording you guys did ever? Yeah. Well, no, we had another one. We had another one that was actually just called EP. So it's very confusing. Can people find that anywhere? No. No, but we just re-recorded a bunch of tunes off that. Oh, yeah? And a bunch of tunes off the original full length that didn't make the Plan Your Skate EP. Gotcha. And we're going to release those sort of on singles. Oh, nice. You need to pick a single first to make those beats back to us. I think I'm going to leave this going to be one of them, just for this sake of it. Yeah. Well, you guys have all your instruments. Let you guys play something.

8:38What do you feel like playing? I think we should play new goodbye, probably. I think it's a good choice. It's opening track on the record. How come it opens the record? I don't know. We had a lot of, it was a long, long task, trying to choose the order of tunes and everything. I don't know. It's exciting. It's sort of, I think it kind of draws you in a bit, maybe. And it's, for a while, I thought it might actually be a bit cheesy or something. Because the first lines are, you know, get your things. What's the first line? Get your things really good. Yeah, get your things really good. The rest of the band knows lyrics here is singing better than you. Yeah. You know, and like we're going on some journey or something.

9:25But it, you know, I don't know, it works. It does work. And you guys are going to do it for us live in studio. Sweet. We're sailing.

10:11Cause it's time to go. Watch the calm, only fake control. To you move like a toilet door. We'll ding her cloak and soar. Like song twisted. But I believe if we run into Red Full Speed, there isn't a blade beneath. Peaning off to pure sauce skin. We won't let it in.

14:46Fantastic. I love how it builds. And it is that something you guys do is that something that Hoxley brings to the project. Cause I know he does that a lot with his songs where he really builds them and makes crescendos. I think the songs kind of like, cause we had a lot of time to sort of sit and, you know, slug it out with these tunes for a while. Like before Hoxley, they got on board. So I don't know that that's necessarily something that he brought to the table. Although he certainly didn't discourage it. No. Yeah. So how were you guys like road testing these songs before you went in? It wasn't all just written in studio kind of thing? No, no, no. They were very much sort of written and mostly organized and pretty much ready to go. We had tried a bunch of them out on stage I think before we actually set out to record

15:31them. Yeah, it was only a couple we never played live I think. We only had two weeks in the studio to do, you know, 12 tunes or whatever. So it was kind of, you know, it was two tunes a day. It was pretty hectic. It was actually hectic. It was just really kind of quick and pretty efficient actually. Who brought Hoxley on board? How'd you hook that up? Well, we just we just try to try to figure out who would be best sort of making dreams. Well, he's always dressed. Dreamless. But I mean, I don't get to work with Hoxley. I don't know. Yeah, we just emailed him or you know, our manager emailed his man. Your people? You got people now? Yeah. Our people talked to each other. And yeah, he wrote back really quick and was just really, really into it was you know,

16:17he said it would be a dream project and all this stuff. Well, I was pretty hard to believe at first. But it turned out not really after hearing another pilot, I was like, damn. So I'm not really surprised that he was just, okay, done. Must have been excited. He's like, oh, he's got some huge, I'm going to get some publishing money or something. Not that he needs it. But actually, you know what? I really like another pilot and I want to play it for people because it's a sweet tune. It's like all turn of it's a Rosetta with another pilot.

21:46The guys are live in the studio. Tell me what writing that song. Yeah, I don't even remember writing it really. It started. It started. It was almost like a folky on acoustic actually. Yeah, it's a fairly ubiquitous theme in pop music. You know, just escaping your everyday life or whatever. But I don't know, I think it's a theme that everyone can, everyone in the world can sort of latch onto. Yeah, I almost, the more you like play tunes on the road and perform them, the less you kind of think about kind of where they came from and the more you think about them in terms of where they sit in a set and how people react to them, which is kind of weird. But that's a really, really fun time in the show.

22:34Yeah, people love it. Everyone kind of knows it and we can clap in and it's always really loud and fun. Would you say it's a hit song? I don't know whether. Back to the new record. It's a long album type. I mean, you can call it into your lungs if you want, but you have that stuff in parentheses as well. Why so long? Well, I guess that could be asked of all the songs on there too. Why are the songs long? Well, they need it though. You can't really cut them anywhere. Yeah. And you wouldn't want to. That's kind of how I felt about the title, I guess. I mean, I don't know. It's a complete thought sort of as it is, you know. And I don't know, kind of an intimate thought. I like it. I don't know.

23:19It's almost like, spooky. Yeah, it's almost like spiritual or something. I don't know. Deep. Let's get you guys to play another song. You have a Glock and spiel and I want to hear it because it's amazing. So you guys are going to play Red Heart? Yeah. And it's going to sound really different in the record because the record, well, it's a full band song in the record. And I guess you guys will do it full band, but it's going to be stripped down. This is going to be cool. Exactly. Nice.

24:27Yeah. You got your reason. Even still the sun. Honey, but you read heart show. She let you read heart show. Won't you let you read heart show. Can't you let you read heart show.

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27:35This is 16. I'm Matt. Hey, Roseetta live in studio track called Red Heart. The guys are here with me. So you got Red Heart on the record. You also have Black Heart on the record. And they're beside each other. Jux deposed in a way. On purpose? Yeah. Yeah. It was very, everything was very purposeful in the track list thing there. I mean, you know, firstly, they just kind of like flow well in places they're at. But I guess they are both, you know, about heart, but from very different sort of perspectives, I guess. So when black hearts dark, yeah, and black hurt. Yeah. Yes, that makes sense. Do you have a question?

28:22Every band that comes in and asks five questions, one word answers. We can go in a big circle. Everyone can answer. You might have to shut them though from your corner. We'll start with Tim iPod or CDs. CDs. Oh, the same question. Same question. CDs for sure. Can I say records? You can say vinyl. I'd say vinyl. I'd say vinyl. Let's change my answer. No, too late. Shout out. I bought it. Oh. He went there. Probably the only one in the band that owns one. That's right. Landon or McCartney? Yeah, Landon. I'm sorry. I have McCartney. That's okay. McCartney's great. Landon. Maybe it's just the bass player thing, but. I understand. Alcohol and marijuana. Yeah. Alcohol. Absolutely. Alcohol.

29:07Alcohol. Alcohol. Alcohol. Who writes, do you write all the songs? There's a group effort before I ask this next one. I read. Okay. So for you favorite song you've written your most proud of and you guys favorite song to play live or unless you wrote a part that you're really proud of in a song or something like that, we don't have to start with him. We can go the other way. Let's go the other way. I need a minute. Black art. Cool. Black art. These days black art too actually. I don't agree. You go different. Tired eyes I think. He's going through a set list to find it. Tired eyes is a good one.

29:53I think, I don't know. I think even after it's been a while, but I think the simplest thing is probably we do one our most proud of. I don't even know that one. It's off the EP. Okay. One word. Hey Rosetta. Describing. First thing comes through my mind when you think you're bad. I don't know. I hear that name. So many times every day. Fun. One night. Someone said epic last night. Epic. Oh nice. It's a big four letter word. Grant. Grant. Good energy I guess. Tim? Yeah. That works. Yeah. It does work.

30:39Cool. What do I want to close this out with? Psalm because it closed up the record. It's a nice little encore if you will because the record really does close with 1000 sons. Same thank you, thank you, thank you. And then you know what? Let's play them back to back. Okay. I like that thought. You guys cool with that? Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you so much for coming in. Thank you. And really appreciate it. And I expect huge things. Not to put pressure on you. But I'm serious. Cool. Thanks man. Thanks a lot. Taro Zeta with the closing tracks off the record into your lung. Psalm and 1000 sons. We start with 1000 sons. Fuel. 90.3.

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38:53This is 16th. I'm Matt. It's a Rosetta off their record into your lungs. The track called Psalm. You'll start with 1000 sons from them. And as we were playing those songs, I was talking to Tim the singer from the band. And I hate to make you repeat the story, but you played my hometown and Waterloo the other night. And it's a good story. So I'll even intro it for you. So you played Waterloo the other night? Yeah, we played Waterloo the other night. Yeah, we did end up playing, but we're a little late. We're playing in a house. It's actually a record, I guess an indie label sort of site called Trepid Records. And it's just these guys house, sweet house, and you kind of play in the living room. Anyway, we were third of the night, I think. How many people were there? Fourth. Fourth of the night.

39:38There was, I don't know, 50 or 60 people. Something like that. Wow. Yeah, I was tight. Yeah, but yeah. University. Anyway, yeah, so we were on last. And the cops showed up after the first three bands. So we were just, we just all got on stage and all plugged in and all got ready and sort of checked our amps and everything. We just kind of stood there for like 20 minutes waiting to see what happened and they shut us down. We couldn't play. So we ended up playing anyway, we just kind of didn't use any of the electric or any drums. Strictly down. Yeah, we just kind of like we did here. Yeah, there you go. So you're getting a house party show almost today. Nice. Well that wraps up 16 Dab for the week. Mel's coming in. I'm going to leave you with another Hey Roseetta song. One of my favorites, the bass line is sick and this whole tune is actually amazing.

40:24It's called Yes, Yes, Fuel 90.3. See what you made when the thunder begins.

Part 2

0:01Tim Baker, welcome to the studio. Thanks. Appreciate it. Appreciate you coming in. Oh, thanks for having me. Again, last time you were here you brought the whole band and played some tunes for us. Yeah, that was fun. I remember now that I'm in this room. Now you're in the same room. Yeah. It sounded nice. And that red heart's a single and you played it for us last time, so that was kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, that is kind of cool. It's kind of cool. Why, why just kind of? Well, I don't know. I mean, I like, I like Red Heart. It's a really, it's a real fun song live and everything. Singles are strange, you know, choosing singles. Do you even have a choice or is it all people? Yeah, no, we had a, well, we had a sort of, I mean, it's an obvious sort of selection process. Like, there's many songs that we have that just can't be singles. That makes sense. And the label actually wanted a different song, a song called There's an Arc to be the single.

0:47But wasn't that like kind of? Well, it was a video. It was a little video for everything. It just did, it was just did the other day actually. They wanted that one to be the single, but they didn't want it to be the same sort of song structure that it is. So we spent kind of a fraught couple of months trying to like chop it up and then like see how it felt with like verses and courses and different orders, you know. And like, they wanted, you know, they thought that radio would want sort of a chorus that repeats itself more, you know, like a more repetitive song. Yeah. It's easier to sort of digest and get caught in your head kind of song. And it just didn't work. We were all pretty discussed that every time we heard a new version, like, oh, that's great. You know, I wanted like that. I would have done it like that. That's a good point. You know, so we ended up going with Red Heart, which is a pretty catchy, pretty simple, kind of obvious choice.

1:37And I'm happy with it. And people like it. Yeah. It's not, I don't think it's, you know, our best sort of written kind of. What is your best sort of written? That's a good question. Probably should save that for a little later. That's a heavy one to start with. Yeah. There's, there's, you know, I mean, I like, like, there's an arc, for example, I like it. I was kind of happy with that choice. Surprised with that choice. I've been asleep. I thought would be kind of an obvious choice, which they did. I know Hawk wanted that to be the first single. Yeah, he did. Yeah. And, you know, no radio sort of savvy people. I played it a few times. Well, thanks. You know, you know, you would have can. I mean, like, sort of the, you know, high up, you know, sort of radio. Like, you know, I'm not really the sort of radio people at Warner and, and the, and the, I guess, I, I don't know who people with doctorates in radio.

2:31The experts, anyway, down their prescription and that wasn't involved. But, yeah. Well, what do you want to start us with? I was going to start with Red Heart, but if you, what do you want to play? Oh, well, we've been, we've been starting, starting our shows recently with Tired Eyes, which is kind of an unusual tune to start with. But, I, I like it. I like that song quite a bit. Good. You wrote it. You should like, you know, it's something I like. Taro's at a Tim Baker from the band's in the studio. You've been on the road for a few weeks now. And you're saying you're a little under the weather, but you still got quite the jaunt out east to go before it's done. We certainly do. Yeah. Yeah, it's a little, that's a bit scary, you know, sometimes when, when, I don't know, there's a lot that goes into a tour, a lot of planning, a lot of planning.

3:19A lot of money and, and, and, you know, it represents what you do all day long. It represents your whole life really is this band. And, you know, to get sick and just really disappointing, you know, really frustrating. And I tend, I have a tendency to get sick quite a bit. I mean, you know, I won't whine about conditions touring, but it's not ideal, certainly for healthy or for healing. And, yeah, I've been real sick for a while. I just bronchitis won't go away and trouble breathing. You know, it could have been an issue when you're seeing it all the time. But, yeah, it seems to be working out. All right. You know, the odd day off is good.

4:04Try to sleep as much as you can. Yeah. The tour's going well other than that. Well, yeah, the tour's going great. I mean, it's weird. Every time we go out, it's just like, it gets better. And it's, you know. The crowds are coming, too. It just kind of applause my mind every time. Yeah, we haven't played a show that hasn't been real full and real exciting. I remember the first time you were here, I guess it was the second time you were in Calgary, we waited outside for two hours. Yeah, that's a bit of that going on. It's amazing. Yeah. You should be playing bigger rooms maybe. Maybe. Maybe in certain places. Yeah. But you're playing Minneapolis, right? Is that your first gig in the States or what's going on with that? No, we've done a couple. We've been to New York a couple of times. Yeah, and that's been all right. Yeah, it's again, it's weird to travel so far and to put so much into one show and then to have something stupid go wrong.

4:55Like, last time we were there, it was this sickness again. It was like hardcore, too. I could hardly even sing at all without coughing. And we had to actually cancel and sit. We had to show in Brooklyn. We had to cancel. That's stupid. Because I just couldn't make noise without coughing. Yeah, I mean, on the show it was like, okay, I don't think we impressed that many people. It's kind of disappointing. It took a couple of days to get down there and a lot of money. You can't get paid for doing shows in the States because of the visa thing. Yeah. Anyway, we've done a bit in the States. Hopefully a lot more. Hopefully a lot better and sort of satisfying shows. It's exciting to go to the United States.

5:40New York City is incredible. Always. Yeah. And the music is well received. It's starting to start in for you down there? It is, yeah, it is. I have a feeling it's a pretty tough market to get into. Always is. Yeah, it's probably, I don't know, I've heard it's the toughest in the world. There's just too many great bands and too many great musicians down there. And everyone's trying to break it there. Everybody's just amazing. Even if you give it your all, it's like, yeah, it was like, you know, but in New York City, I mean, the other choices you have to, the people you can see, and then you give a night. It's kind of hard to compete, but fair enough. We'll give it a shot. Let's go with some, maybe, because there's a couple of sweet lyrics in there.

6:27And it's slower and it closes the record and I really like it. Yeah, it kind of named the record as well. Yes, it did. It did. One of the lyrics in there. Yeah, that one is one of those tunes, one of those kind of magical tunes that you, you know, I spent a lot of time sort of writing songs like as if their essays almost and really trying to make every line count and make everything sort of refer back to whatever the theme is or whatever the main image is. And I spent a lot of time trying to be clever and you know, and this is one of those songs that just, I didn't do that. I just, it just kind of fell out and I wrote it late, late, late, late, late one night. And was sort of got it out. It all came out in like 15 minutes and then I just sort of recorded it and went to bed

7:13and forgot about it for like a couple months. It didn't really strike me as that, that amazing when I wrote it and then I went back and listened to it and actually got chills listening to it, which is something that doesn't happen very much at all. And I was like, maybe this is, you know, worth it. Maybe I should let like, you know, the guys listen to this one and they, everyone really liked it. So, piano too. So you play piano? Yeah. Yeah. You don't bring it on the road or anything like that though. Well, yeah, we have a big keyboard, a big keyboard to that most of the stage. If we could, yeah, but yeah, we definitely, yeah, always have a, and it's not a piano. I wish it was, that'd be really sweet. You need to be playing bigger rooms for that. That's a good one. Maybe. Yeah. Grands or something. Yeah, that would take up the whole stage. Two grand pianos. What kind of strings in your band?

7:59Was that something you always wanted? Yeah. Yeah. From the beginning of this project, definitely, you know. I don't even remember hearing it. I mean, you know, you've heard it in like E.L.O. and you've heard it, you know, in Nick Drake and I actually hadn't heard the Arcade Fire or any like sort of new or like Sufi and Steven's or anything like that when I started it. But- Where are you getting compared to them a lot? Yeah, we do a bit. You know, and it's like, it's fine or whatever. They're incredibly incredible band. And I'm a huge fan, you know. But you know, I sometimes you wonder about bands that come out that like sort of are modeled after other bands, you know.

8:45Oh, how lame is that? And I've sort of got some more respect for bands like that because I don't know if it happens that consecutively, you know. I don't know, I think there's sort of like strange things happening all over that sort of concur, you know. Sort of like movements, you know. And there's like, there's scenes that are like miles away from each other and they're like doing the same thing. And I don't know. Anyway, I lost my train. Yes, I guess I always wanted strings in the band. Cool. Especially a cello, actually. That's what I really wanted in the band. And not so much the violin. Don't dismiss her like that. Well, no, no, no. I mean, eventually it proved invaluable, you know. But in the beginning, it was just planned to be sort of me and a guitar and drums and

9:35a cello and not even any bass, you know, really like light sort of drums. Very kind of like song-gridery. And that's just not what happened at all. No, I don't know. I don't know. But I think Josh came in, Josh happened. And he got his big six-string bass in and then everything had to get turned up. And then we'd just do our shit. How do all the crescendos come in? Because they're all the songs are big, like they all build up huge and then they come back down. I hope they don't all. But it's not a bad thing. Like they all have different movements to them almost. Yeah, I mean, it's how to the, well, I don't know. I mean, you know, dynamics is the most important thing really. And sort of moving someone or whatever, or conveying something. It's the most important tool I think you have, really.

10:20And yeah, I don't know how they really came about. You know, it's a very natural sort of thing to do with a song I think. You know, if you try to say something poignant and then get really loud and it like sink in better, you know, the louder it gets. I don't know, maybe trying to mimic some sort of like realization or epiphany or something. I don't know, but yeah. Crescendos, great. Decoracinos. They're fantastic. Yeah, fantastic. Five questions, one more answers. Okay. On the road or at home? At home. Letting her McCartney.

11:05That's actually two words. That's fine. Mm. Lin. Alcohol and marijuana. Alcohol. Song you've written your most proud of. I guess we're coming back to that first question. Yeah. That's tough. We just finished sound checking. This is way more than one word. It's fine though. We just finished sound checking a song just like minutes before I left, which is new. It's called seeds. So it is one word. I really like it. And yeah, it's the answer seeds. One word. Hey, Rosetta.

11:51I mean that, you know, everything. My life, that's, you know, it's crazy how much it is, you know, and how occasionally you like see it written. Are you here someone saying, hey, you're here Rosetta. You're here Rosetta. I mean, yeah, you think that really that's the word that sums up my existence right now? That's it is. It's weird. Yeah, it's got to be a weird. I guess it's everything, you know. It's something you created though. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Nice. Back to seeds though, new material. So what is next for you? Well, we're going to finish this big old tour and hopefully even get into a studio somewhere along the way and do just a little bit more pre-production. Hopefully with a producer or something. We don't really have anyone lined up right now.

12:41Anyone you want to work with? You think enough? Well, it's like obviously sort of like dream. Oh yeah, of course. Dream choices. I really wanted to obviously work with Philak, you know, who does everybody, you know, like the shins and what fleet foxes and all these things. That record's amazing. Ah, you know, yeah, you know, and just the production on it, she's like so sweet. You're going to throw a lot of reverb on your stuff. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Anyway, that he's busy, you know. I really like, I really love the production on Bright Eyes Records. Those are stripped down. This guy Mike Mogus, you know, who is in wherever they are.

13:26Where are they? Bright Eyes? Yeah. Or from Omaha. Omaha, exactly. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, we sent him, I don't know if we didn't get anything back from him yet, but that would accept me a lot. You know, I don't know. I don't know. But anyway, hopefully we'll get in with somebody for like a week on this way back. We have some days off and we got a couple of days off. I'm just trying to figure it out. What do you mean? Yeah, we got to tomorrow. I'm going to the doctor. Oh, good. Probably for the best. Yeah, I would have a clinic, I think, and try to figure out what's wrong with my loan. Well, tomorrow's Sunday. You might want to wait till Monday. Well, I know. We were driving to Saskatoon on Monday. I suppose I could go there on Tuesday. I mean, show there Tuesday. Anywho. Anyway, days off. Yeah. What a beautiful thing, you know. Yeah. I don't know what I might try to write something.

14:13That'd be nice. I love doing that. Favorite thing, everything to do. Well, you've chosen a good career there. Yeah, yeah. Well, you'd think, although I don't do much, mostly just drive around in Soundchick. That's fine. Well, you know, it's probably my second favorite thing to do. Not the sound chain of the driving, but the playing. Yeah, the playing. Fair enough. Well, thank you so much for coming in. I appreciate it. Well, thanks for having me. And let's close it out with the tune. Okay. What do you want to play? Don't look at my last two-journs. No. I forget sometimes what we do. Oh. What do you close it on the show with every now? Well, yeah. We've been closing with, well, we actually have been closing with the new guy. We already played that. Yeah. Well, good. Take your things and leave them back. We've been doing like before the sort of encore. Okay. The last sort of tune.

14:58Nice. Yeah. That's a good song to close out because it thanks everybody. Exactly. Thanks for listening. Thanks for asking questions. Thanks for working on mixing more than it. All right. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate it.

Part 3

0:24the olympics the Orpheum Theater the most beautiful rooms have been in not not this room itself but with the room upstairs oh yeah yeah actually the room upstairs we just we just got here a few hours ago and I'd never been here on a real first time playing the room yeah first time being in the room and I it's I didn't even know places like this existed it feels like we're you've gone back in time Newfoundland has no old theaters not of this not of this caliber no and in fact not really any caliber nothing you know there's like the arts and coaches and yeah everything is St. John's burned down fully burned down twice really not that many that not many old buildings despite the value it's the oldest it's the oldest St. John long as the biking to one

1:13our next city in St. John's I was arguing a lot on the topic of St. John's in Newfoundland then I've been in a band have you ever thought about having to move out of there oh yeah yeah lots and yeah not gonna happen I don't know if it's not gonna happen it I don't think it's probably not gonna happen as a group you know that's do you think it's not to get to more I don't think it's necessary you know I mean I think it's been hard it's been difficult a lot in a lot of ways it's been really hard so much more traveling you know it's an extra extra 24 hours to get to Halifax so it's like it adds a lot of money and a

1:59lot of time to every tour but I I think it's worth it I love I love being there I love being from there I love going like going there after after being on tour you know in all the big cities and just feeling all the the strange sort of rat race music week we used and you know what's what's hot and what's not you know people care about you where I think it's a very refreshing place to be and to create music and a lot of really great talented people there making making art and music for for no reason others and the fact that they kind of feel like they

2:46have to there's no chance really rich or famous or anything it's not really gender I like being away from it's a little isolated it is I mean it's pretty isolated does it come out in the music you think and what you're right you're right from like an nice and a isolationist point of view I don't know I don't know I mean I lived in I lived in Montreal for a while but I a lot younger music I was like I can't tell what to what sort of extend well on topic of songwriting then what was the shift gears and you're working on a

3:35new record writing some new stuff it's been a little while since your lungs yeah it has been a nice long time actually and so what's what's coming out in the record what are the themes would you writing about what there's obviously the most there's lots of lots of songs that being on the road of course yeah you know a lot of what our lives are lives have sort of become but I think that's a sophomore record kind of do you consider it a sophomore record is this the third just plain your second third yeah I mean fingerscape was a full-length got released twice yeah okay so then the third one should be writing about

4:22whatever you want right about and it is yeah I definitely didn't try to write about anything yeah it was a different writing experience I mean there was a lot less time to write you know I find it very difficult to write on the road there's never really alone you never really in a quiet place where you can listen to yourself to do you read alone and as opposed to like you group with the guys you know words after the words and the words and the melodies they'll put together everything else yeah and I'm I'm not like strict about that it's just the way that it's just a function mm-hmm who'd you have to produce is it already done like how far on it okay I

5:11was actually talking to a prospective producer this morning mmm Scotland and we've been really just digging around for the producer for a while you know what I'll talk again or another I don't want to I just think we're gonna you know just switch it up mm-hmm that was a great experience but you didn't want to try something yeah yeah you know there's a lot of a lot of minds and years out there mm-hmm I don't know where we're gonna do it or I we still don't know but but the songs are almost there they're coming alive I guess you're not really playing to this it just happens to be a special week kind of thing yeah we yeah we did a little tour in December we were in England in November

5:59and England of France and we were in Canada in December the bunch and we have taken last couple months to just demo and write and arrange and there's this now and then we're going to South West weeks but yeah the records really was the four-fives all I remember when can we expect to hear it what do you think like an approximate fall yeah definitely by the fall I think I certainly be I think these songs are ready to be put down a lot of them you know and we ready to move on it's always weird though you also do it and then there's two or

6:49three months you know makes it master design it do all that stuff and even when that's all done and you need like a couple months for the label and the team to do there you're gonna put out another one that was like mini CD booklets are you gonna go full-size I have some very interesting idea I can't feel what you have and it's kind of exciting it's kind of weird all right Olympics and then you got me thinking about the CD booklets but I was gonna say what are you doing for the Olympics you've got anything special about them you gonna go see any events I think our our our free time is done oh really we got here yesterday at noon and you're working and now it's something we have something every day we have Tuesday off actually but yeah we're here at the

7:35ocean tonight and tomorrow and Sunday we're down in Granville Island Monday we're out with sler Tuesday week have off Wednesday when actually playing a show I'm doing a bunch of stuff at CBC mmm-hmm cool and come win or use I have a dance for a dance rehearsal it's not really no no no you need to explain that further well it was because then yeah we have something on Thursday I don't know I'll what's like a private thing Friday we're doing a award ceremony in BC place and I have to do a traditional movement dance with a bunch of other people that's awesome you ever

8:21done one before I know I'm not familiar but I'm told it's very simple I hope it's on TV I think it is it's amazing it's saying like a stadium I'll be no bragging a little bit yeah and then Saturday we're playing something we winter sleep and Tokyo police club somewhere that should be cool to me the serving celebration it's nice week for it it's lots yeah it's seven shows or something I heard you want to put an orchestra on the next record too well yes you'd like to yes and I was actually just talking about that today with this producer will be remain nameless who will remain remain nameless for the time yeah because not the I mean as the first time I spoke Mm-hmm cool thank you I'm

9:10excited to hear it yeah well me too actually

Part 4

0:00well i think it's a lot of the social talking that's cool what's up let's uh... what's your sushi what uh... what do you like california rolls unagi i'm a bank of art man i like the variety alike the fact that you had get so much food that you're going to explode inside eight bucks it's nothing well you guys just came from the west coast unfortunately i don't think we can uh... guarantee as good as sushi as Vancouver but uh... but we'll try here in emminton yeah we just have we had to we had to see that cover of course you have to yeah it was not very good at all actually really we hit we hit a bit of a dot yeah you think the guys from hot hot heat would hook you up considering they're from there yeah well we didn't ask them you know i'll see that's a problem right there we've been using the the yelp at all really

0:46yeah you know that i know i don't have it but i've heard of it oh it's great i like i like the around me app personally okay and we've been rocking the yelp thing good and we helped something really good and then we couldn't find it through into this other shitty place it's really hungry that's what happened fair enough let's uh... let's let's do this interview thing uh... because i got a talk in a few minutes here new record what's the deal with the new record what is the deal with the new record i heard i'm i'm my brother was working with the december's the summer heard christ fund u s christ fund to do it uh... we were we were looking at a lot of different people you know uh... we spent a long time um... i can't even remember everyone we looked at i mean i i would for a few weeks ago i would just sit in my living room and listen to

1:34music and and look look through produces discography and i try to see who was a match and it was it was difficult you know like it you know i don't know we're not that straight ahead you know and so it's hard to find a good match it was hard to find someone that was that was willing to do it for the amount of money that we were offering half-air as well um we ended up doing it with tony doogan tony i know that they aim for some reason yeah i don't know he uh he uh he's a scott he's scottish man um pretty brilliant uh you know really uh if i find a funny dude anyway he uh he's um he did a lot of balance of action work okay uh a lot of magua

2:21um and he's done the last two winter sleep records as well and so it was weird we just flipped him out of hand originally because he was kind of winter sleep sky and so we were like yeah well there's something to do again but let's let's see if we can find someone someone else in the anyway we came back around to him after like month and month seriously and uh and uh when we were when we found out that he was actually interested and so uh and so that we hooked that up yeah it was a couple months well we had a couple short sessions couple two sessions over over a couple months and and made the thing yeah and it's done it makes it faster to ready to go and we're just playing the waiting game with the label and kind of put tomorrow together nice when you're on the road so right what when do you think we'll hear it

3:07christmas or next year uh i'm actually not supposed to say a perilous i've been told not to say so and frankly i don't know anyway so as i could say but but as soon as you know we can certainly i want it out month ago you know it's done it's old news and uh and and uh you know we want it out we got new stuff and not written some things written new things are bubbling up you know i just i've spoken even before i heard this the weather on the road so yeah but uh still the anxiety the anxiety is the the desire to the the new thing is definitely there and the desire to get the the old things out so people can hear them you know i see it's hard to wait

3:54hard to wait yeah all right other songs coming out there you're gonna play them tonight oh yeah we're playing uh well we you know we're only doing 45 minutes that's with hot-out heat up fortunately we wanted to do our but um just the way it is so that's the way it is no big deal ever they've been great to us bringing us along all across America with us amazing time but yeah so i mean we're gonna try it we usually play you know two or three new tunes um we don't play all the new ones you know some people they come out they want to hear certain thing and what is that what let me ask you that what what are the songs people want to hear or what do you think they want to hear well i think they want to hear red harrick and i think they want to hear there's an ark and i'm going to sleep and niggah

4:41bye um uh and i think they occasionally want to hear lines with scottie and a lot you know a lot of different songs i mean it's hard to do it whenever you i mean every night when we play someone comes out and they're like oh i wish you were going to play and it could be anything come out of their mouth i mean really it could be swing the salad door or hand shake the gangster and there's like so many random songs that people have latched on to so it's really hard to write a list that pleases everybody yeah well that's why you got to be like dylan just do it for yourself right at the end of the day yeah that's it you know um there's certain songs that just feel better to play live they're exciting um we gotta we gotta got our thing worked out you know and so um yeah yeah i don't know it's hard you can't

5:30it's different now we had to switch gears because in a plane across america nobody really knows since there has seen us before at many times right well i saw you guys at the hotel cafe in l.a. people knew what was going on yeah no they uh there's uh and that was pretty slim actually most nights were a little bit better than that and uh always you know half a dozen or a dozen people there that that do know and i really excited that we're playing so it's cool yeah uh accent side by radio into into their credit to credit for that yeah they're good at that kind of stuff well they hooked you up some coin too didn't they at some point yeah we we got an award yeah yeah very nice congratulations thank you um i gotta get i get need some

6:18soundbites from me here on tunes if that's cool sure um red heart i about letting loose is that is that what it is uh red heart yeah well that's it's a pretty yeah it's a pretty obvious one that was yeah i know but i just i just wrote it about a um a friend of mine a girl that i knew that was just really really shy but a really beautiful person and and uh and uh yeah just you know it was just song oddly enough used to be entitled uh two metaphors for a long time because that's how it starts you know the first verse just um you know the two metaphors we commonly use for people that are sort of shy you know as a a cold fish

7:07and a closed book is the second verse um and you know yeah it's just a song for her really and and i and it originally was more of like a folk song and then it turns you know a bit of a rock song and then it and it was my least favorite song on the record and then a little bit of a bit of a single oh yeah yeah um i've been asleep crowd genetics uh well i guess it could you know uh um but that is another obvious one uh you know it's just it's just um that feeling that everybody gets when you get older and you find yourself sitting to be on the street here in Edmonton

7:55and uh you know and and and and realizing that you know you you you're you're old my lot older than you thought and you don't know what really happens to the time you're not that old how old are you you're not that old i'm 28 years old i'm not that old i guess i'm pretty old today fair enough with the bronchitis yeah uh new goodbye so you're moved like a tourador wielding your cloak and sword what in the world is a tourador what the tourador you know it's a it's a bullfighter oh well there you have it yeah the bullfighter there um it's a little metaphor over here um yeah new goodbye is uh that's the king born out of our experience is touring around Canada you know um sort of referencing the ferry you know from the Newfoundland uh to get to the west of Canada

8:46yeah and the new goodbye is just is instead of being afraid and being sad and and waving waving goodbye to what you're what you're what you're losing it's it's sort of a turning around and facing the future and what's to come and opening your arms and and saying goodbye in that way and a more positive embracing sort of way nice still come out every night in the set yeah um yeah we we try to i really like that as a closer um it's uh it's a really good vibe a lot of love in that book nice and uh it's a really nice way to end it you know um that's if we don't get we don't run over time and get hall not safe five questions one more answers oh god

9:32road or studio uh you know studio lennon or mccartney lennon most important thing in a song lyrics melody or cadence oh it's all in one i i'm gonna go lyrics though song you've written you're most proud of i can't even remember oh it's been so long i wrote a goddamn song ask me about driving i think about changing tires changing chimes front or back tires what's that what's easier front or back tire oh front sure one word one word hey rosetta one word