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Episode #5 · Third Eye BlindOctober 2003 · 00:06:21
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0:00I asked the band how they felt about trying to live up to the expectations of that first album. And, you know, I would love to, but that's just, you can't like think about that stuff like, that's not why you do it, you know what I'm saying? You hope for it, but that's definitely not what you're thinking about when you're making records. At least we don't. Like we just like want to make a great record. We hope people buy it, we hope tons of people buy it, but you know, they don't. And what are you going to say? As long as it's good, as long as you're happy with it, as long as we're happy with it, then that's about all you can ask for. The last record we put out sold like 2 million copies, which is great too. But I was, I'm not crazy about the record, you know. It's like I have a lot of regrets with it, not regrets, but just things that would change. I mean, we rushed it, we had to get it out, quick style.
0:46You know, it's just little bull things that nobody else would care about except for me and the big guys in the band. But this one, we took too long to do it actually, which is a drag, but I love it. So that's kind of, at least I can be happy with that. But yeah, I wish you would, you know, I'm hoping it does better or whatever. At least people like it, that's good enough. They built their own studio. It's a room that was a studio in San Francisco already that some guy built like back in the like maybe early 90s. And we just moved in, rented it out and renovated it. It's awesome. It's cool. It's tiny. It's like a Pinner Studio, but it's like a five minute cab ride from my house and it's just, it's got a good vibe and it's in a cool neighborhood. It's like an industrial neighborhood down by, right by the baseball stadium and there's not a lot of stuff around there, but there's like a couple cool bars and it's super, it's great.
1:35It's just nice being able to go there and make music. Like most bands, you know, write music and they go into a studio and they pay this hour, a paid like a crazy hourly rate. Not most bands, a lot of bands. But we don't do that. We just go and it's our thing. We don't pay any money to be there. We pay like a minimal monthly rent fee. So it's cool as you know. Yeah, it's great. Not only did they have their own studio, but also their own producers. We produce all the records like as a sort of as a band. Like the last record I produced with him, Blue, our second record, and then this record too. But yeah, it's awesome, you know. I love it. It's my favorite. I actually like being in the studio more than I like being on the road. Kind of like a home body, you know. I'm like, so I like being at home. No, not in every play I show again, but it's nice to just like, you know, like I said, I'm five minutes away from my house so I can get up and fart around the house and then take a cab down the studio.
2:30Work all day, work until midnight, come home and go to bed, sleep in my own bed. This is cool. And not. I mean, I love playing, but yeah, I like being in the studio. It's just fun. It's just safe. I feel safe in there, man. I heard that Ryan, the bass player, was a huge Beatles fanatic, so I asked him what he thought of the new Let It Be album. You know what, I had already heard it because I've had that bootleg for like 10 years. I'm a Beatles geek, so I've been buying Beatles bootlegs forever. And so those versions of those tunes have already been available. But yeah, I love that. I'm the biggest Beatles geek there is. I challenge anybody to a Beatles trivia. I'll go right to Hell of a day. Really? Let's do it. Alright. Okay, I'll try. Let's do it. Okay.
3:15It'll be fun. Do you know who Alan Owen is? I know the name. I can not think of what he did, but I do know the name. He wrote the screenplay for Hard Day's Night. He was like a screenwriter and he had a whatever. I don't want to geek out on the radio because people are going to know that I'm a f***ing nerd. I don't know. You give me one. I was just told to wrap it up by that guy. I just want five. But ever. Don't listen to him. He'll tell you what you got. Who helped write it? Whoa. I don't know if I believe you on that. Oh, Cardi missed you. Like for sure, like this is in McCarty's book. In his bio, which I read and I'm a pinhead for not knowing it. Alright dude, you stumped me. So you actually win dude. I win. Yeah, you win. No, because I didn't know who Alan Owen is. Whatever. I already forgot about that. Downloading has been plagued musicians for the past five years.
4:00How does the line feel about it? I don't know. Like I have a hard time getting mad at people for taking free s***, you know. Just because I've done it. But it's kind of a drag because, you know, I'm sure that affects the sales somewhat. I don't know. I don't have a really having opinion on that. I can't get hyped up on that one way or the other. Because like I said, it's just like a s***. I've shoplifted. I've, you know, I'm not doing it anymore. If I didn't have any money and, you know, I might be doing that too. I feel creepy about it now doing it. I would never do it now. Like I can actually afford CDs so I go and buy them. I wouldn't do it. I think it's creepy. But then again, I can't get mad at kids for doing it. You know. I don't really have like opinion about it. But I was like going to college. I didn't have any bread. I was just like, you know, eating top ramen for dinner. Which I know a lot of kids are.
4:45I know I was. Then I wanted to hear some tunes before I went out and spent 15 bucks on the CD. I probably do it too, you know. So I can't get mad about it. But then again, it hurts us. And you know what else it actually hurts like bands that don't have any money. I can afford to buy CDs but some of my friends that play in bands can't. So I don't know. I don't know what to say about that. I don't know enough about it. So like really trip out and go, you know what I mean? Get all metallic out on somebody. So what's next for the band? Word is of an EP coming out in the near future. Initially it was going to be mostly, it was like eight songs with like five instrumental. And so now they want to change it and make it a full on release and put it out with money behind it and promote it and etc. But it's done. Like we did our eight song EP with instrumental things.
5:30It's done like I have it in my bag. I can play it. It's great. Stephen wasn't anywhere near the studio when we did any of it because you know he's a singer. He doesn't play music. He doesn't play guitar or anything. But sometimes. But it rocks. It's really good. Everybody I played it for loves it. And it's cool because it like dispels any myth that Stephen is like some kind of guy who makes his band happen which he hasn't for years. But now that our label is like, let's change that and why don't you guys write some more hits. Like I don't know when, you know. It's going to come out. But after that, I don't know. I mean hopefully we'll just do another record because like I was telling you, this one isn't exactly exploding onto the whole thing. So I'm kind of, I love it man. But I'm anxious to get back and do another one. You know, that rock's harder actually.
6:16But when it's going to come out like I don't know because the plans have changed probably like early next year.
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