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Interview · September 2012 · Nashville

Taylor Swift

Musician Taylor Swift (We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, I Knew You Were Trouble) chats with Matt Schichter in Nashville.

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Episode #412 · Taylor SwiftSeptember 2012 · 00:04:17

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0:16I've been writing the new album for two years and I started writing it in 2010 and finished it in 2012 So those are some really important years in my life. I went through a lot I learned a lot of lessons and so to get to write about your life as it's happening to you I I Really loved that the fans want to know what's going on with me The album speak now was a completely different project than the new album read There are so many differences in how it was made why I made it the reasons behind the songs speak now was really about Saying things that I had been either too shy or too scared to say in the past And as you grow up I think making that album and promoting that album taught me to be more bold about how I feel what I think and

1:09In incorporating that into my life You end up in some some Intense tumultuous conversations or relationships and I think in living my life in a little bit more of a braver way I got to experience the kind of life experiences that would inspire an album like read. I Collaborated a lot on this new album because I wanted to I just felt like as an artist You know putting out your fourth album You have two choices you can stay the same or you can evolve and I really wanted to bring in my influences These people who I'm a huge fan of and have them help shape this album

1:54And so I felt so lucky that my favorite people in music wanted to be a part of this record I'm inspired to write songs at any time of day When I'm going through something or when the dust has settled and I'm over it it can be anything It can be you know I'll just be doing dishes or something or you know In the middle of an interview and I could get an idea in my head that just kind of sticks out as like that could be a hook That could be a pre-course. That's like a first line like you know Sometimes it's lyrical sometimes it's got a fragment of melody attached to it and the unpredictability of it is what makes me Continue to fall and love a songwriting over and over again when I'm writing songs the only thing I'm thinking about is

2:52Protraying that emotion as accurately as possible so that if I were to play it for the person It's about they would know it's about them and they would know exactly what I was talking about and You know then I think about my fans and if that's gonna help them with something they're going through in their life If it's something they could relate to And then I think about What it would be like to play it in an arena and how we would treat that and what the lighting would look like and It's kind of the third thing I think about I think for me Having a magnifying glass on my life has been a good thing And kind of a difficult thing at times because you feel like you literally just can't get away with anything sometimes

3:41You're like wow if I make a mistake that's gonna be it's gonna be really loud. That's gonna be everywhere but it also helps to kind of shape your decision-making process and Because everything that I do is gonna be documented and in computers forever It makes me think about what? What the little kid in the front row would think and what What my grandchildren would think one day if I made this choice or that choice I think it's kind of a good governing tool. It makes you more responsible for how you act

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This interview is part of the Matt Schichter Interviews archive: more than 700 conversations with musicians, actors and filmmakers recorded between 2003 and 2014, beginning with The BackStage Pass. The archive also became Matt's short documentary Lennon or McCartney. Matt Schichter is now a Glasgow-based film producer and director. His films → · More about Matt →

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