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Poor Young Things

Musicians Matt Fratpietro, Michael Kondakow, Dave Grant, Scott Burke and Konrad Commisso from the band Poor Young Things (Like An Animal) chat with Matt Schichter in Toronto.

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Episode #544 · Poor Young ThingsJune 2013 · 00:47:03

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0:00This guy's just grabbing his bike. I know not helpful but no one. Let's pretend it's our bikes. Yeah, just got me pulled up. We're cool little some more. This is the one that you guys get to see. It's about a couple of weeks ago. We've got to come up. We can have that. We can have that. So what's the first CD? Yeah. What's it like? Let's start with that. What's it like to have a disc? Well, it's our first full one. Yeah, out. Let's go on to big deals. It is. It's kind of like a... Sort of a... ...coming of age, age, age, or whatever. As a beat. As a beat. As soon as we start doing interviews outside, it's like insects all the time. Yeah, first of all, we think songwriter. 11 songs? Very exciting. It's 10 songs.

0:48This one's got two extra bonus. Yeah, 11. Listen, that's what I got, 7. Ghost notes is the closer. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this one actually has two... Okay. The first 600 of these, you see that groupolver is red lumber. And that means that there's two extra bonus ones. So it's like the first... The first 600 people... This guy's red lumber. Yeah, that guy's the guy's up in the revs. Well, let's just revolver. So when I hear the word revolver, I think Beatles. Yeah, I think that record, right? So, I guess we'll start. What's your favorite track up there? Are you guys more revolver or rubber school Beatles fans? I'm more of a search than ever, so yeah.

1:33It's like my favorite Beatles. But I actually... Other than revolver. Let me look at the list. Let me look at the list. That's pretty skinny. Because if you have a favorite song, I just can't think of the name. And yours? I think it's like a song that's like a drum beat. It's just... Ringo, no one plays drums like Ringo. It was so... Because everyone could play better than Ringo. The thing about him was he was a left playing on a right. Right hand and kick. So we kind of came up with some things that you wouldn't normally come up with just playing on a standard. So a lot of drummers kind of get credit for being like sort of this great pop line. It's the term simplicity of a 3-0.

2:18Exactly. Without that, we wouldn't have worked it in an overplaying for what they needed for that. But no one with what you're doing, you're doing sounds awesome. Yeah, well, I just come from that. I think we all sort of come from that just... That mindset of just like playing. There's a lot of true realities in pop music, but as long as you're just playing like playing for the song and keeping things simple could happen fun at the same time. It's like that can all be considered pop music no matter what genre. I don't say pop record. No, but I'm a heartache ahead the end of pop records. I don't think so. We've been kind of sort of having people say pop rock and pop-pop. It's not like we ever made a conscious decision to be like a pop rock band. We've always thought of ourselves being like rock and roll band.

3:05Yeah. I guess pop nowadays is like Beatles are the biggest pop band of all time. And pop just means, you know, music to people's lives. Yeah, it just means popular. Right. That's my interpretation of pop music. It's just whatever's popular. Right. So this would not be. Give it time. Well, it's not the time to do well. Oh yeah. It's starting to. Yeah. It's starting to pick up play on radio. Is this the first time you guys have had that kind of play? Like it's just the beginnings of something. I mean, you even work out over six years, right? Yeah. So it's finally like a start of something. Well, we had a little bit of a tour of some plays and something is starting. We had a little traction with our last single, Blame Out The Good Times. Right. Like it's a pretty. Yeah. It's practically across Canada, but I think it's time to pick up momentum a little bit quicker

3:52than that did. It took us to tour Canada once, even twice before it started getting a little traction. We haven't even toured this album yet. Yeah. And it's already started to pick up. So it feels a little bit more better going into it. And every band knows that it takes like, it takes some serious touring years to really make it dense in the Canadian music industry. And no one's going to give you the keys to the city in terms of radio. Like right away, you know, they want to know that everyone in the industry wants to know that you've been putting in the miles, playing shows. The shows are growing. That they know. They're working with the audience. The list thing. It's all sort of a, that's the word. Yeah. You know, just stepping stones and you've got to kind of get along the way to.

4:40So touring with other bands, you've seen that with the truth. They've been in the industry for like 10 years and they've been really nice guys to us. And they've, you know, they said before they even made their mark, they had been touring in the band, sleeping in the beds together in the hotel room for six years. We were calling to me once, every show is a go show, no shows a no show. Yeah. And it is stuck with me. You need to work your ass. It doesn't matter if you have six people in the room. It's like you're fucking hearts out. And who knows who that person is. Who talks to you or whatever. Right. And a band like them who can tour Canada anytime they want and in the cello venues all across the country and then when they go to the States they know that they have to sort of, you know, it's that time again to be sort of that young band with that young mindset and just kind of,

5:28you know, there might be 40, 50 people in the room, but a cello, you know. You guys can plan the States too, right? Or tour stuff somewhere. It's not a first tour. That's very exciting. Yes. Does it fit? Yeah. It's a different role band. It's a really different role. It's a different role. But you guys have to get the skinny jeans and all that stuff. Yeah. You guys are, oh, you do it. My legs are small. So I go in. My legs are small. No, no, no. I just have a certain work tour look. I think a work tour when I think of work tour. I think of a very specific type of like, teen punk pop band. But I think if you actually look who's playing work tour. It's so broad. I think it's broad spectrum. I think it's evolved and it's had to evolve with the time. Yeah. We'll skateboard in there with the best of the wedding.

6:13What do I mean in terms of opportunity for playing for people? If you kiss States, like, we can really pass that up. Because, you know, it's a festival. You're a festival. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think something we have the luxury of really. No, it doesn't matter. It was a stupid question. No, no, no. I totally thought that too. We all discussed it. Yeah, we do. Because I mean, I used to play a punk tour band when I was in like, grade six or something. And all the guys in that band, like, work tour was the whole E-Grail. And as soon as we started like a rock and roll band, we were like, yeah. You know, it was a work tour. Mad chap.

6:58Oh, yes. This year. My favorite big, favorite candy. I'm a jazz fan. Mad chap. I mean, interview with Praveil, like, months ago. It was prepped. The complete opposite of what I expected. Yes. Like, just I by Louis Vuitton bags. I was like, she was like, stop her. I write plagues. Yeah. She was going to be the complete opposite of where I thought this interview was going to go. We didn't talk about hip hop at all. We just talked about like the fine culture of Vancouver. Oh, that's amazing. So weird. He was awesome. Mad chap's got a review. So I don't match up with the opposite. My old email is Madchalk14 from my own. It was nice. It was the biggest fan of the year. Yeah. I like the solo record of that. It was different. I mean, I'll tap this one. Yes. But back to your record. Yeah. Sign of the times.

7:43I like how the single talks about things that matter that not enough people, and I don't know why. I mean, I hear a lot of fans and no one seems to talk about the more in the middle class and everything that I hear on the daily show. Bill Maher and all the political stuff that is, for some reason, out of popular mainstream basketball. So when you're coming up with these, I assume you're right there. I don't want to assume it. It's interesting that that was the single. I don't really have a question just talking about writing a song. Well, that song was, I think it was Rolling Stone. There was a big article in the end of the middle class. And I was just thinking about it in terms of, for someone who wants to not necessarily take

8:31ten years of university and be a doctor or get an office job, like we're reading art. Think about it like we do music and this is what we want to do. We want to make a living doing it and it's very, very difficult to do that. I think there's such a split between rich folks and poor folks. And it used to be in Canada and America that there was a solid middle class. Everybody was growing up, upper middle class, lower middle class, but it was kind of like, everybody did the same thing. They took vacations. You got a vacation every year for your family. It's not like that. It's crazy. People work so much and they don't really get as much as you think they would for working as much as they would. Is that confusing? No, I'm just processing it all.

9:16Because those are where we're just like, wow, commentary on the income slippery. It's got like, it's plaguing me all morning less than the record. I was like, where's that La La La. It sounds like a Philip Phillips home song. This is such a huge catchy tune. People aren't going to get it, but it's going to be there. They're going to sing along because it's already kind of in their psyche, but they won't know where it's coming from. We heard that song come out. We heard that song come out. We heard that song already written. We're like, yeah, that song was hit. Most of these songs have been because when you're touring and playing 45 minutes set, and now you have a six song, 70p, we've been playing half these songs. So you must have had covers in the set then? A couple. What were some of those covers the influences are useful?

10:01We would do like, we've covered Florence, we've got a new song, we do electric feel, and I'm Jim Jim. We just like to cover songs. We didn't start the play. Yeah. We did the visual. That's a fun one. We did a new cover. That's a fun one. Yeah. But I mean a lot of these songs were played for a while. So were they all written? Because I heard you guys went in, toured with Tim, and then went back and kind of reworked for maybe recorded the other half. Yeah, I was sort of in the make. So did the tour change, did playing the songs live and kind of working the medals a more live change the way that you want to go back and revisit some of the songs that were already done? Or did you just say those are finished, whatever? It definitely helped. I don't really know where it was going with that question. No, no, no. The songs on the hall, they remain the same, but I think just like little subtleties, like

10:49little harmonies here and there. Guitar lines, they'd be basically the same line, but kind of not. So it was just a road test or two. Yeah, just refined them a bit. Just a little refining, but pretty much when we rolled them, that's the way they were. Okay. Your parents, what did you tweet me this one? Yeah. I'm going to ask you the question, where the hell did it go? Right, parents. Yes, the music was the right choice. So now that things are picking up, are they all like, okay, the kids are doing well. Without a question of a doubt, I could say that my parents are 100% behind me. Oh yeah, this is a good question. I might have to live with them when I'm 40 still, but they'd be cool with that too. Which goes back to Matt's thing about Saturday times. Yeah, exactly. Our parents support us, but you know, make an art.

11:36It's a hard go these days. Not everyone gets the opportunity, but we do. It's pretty, thank you for that. Our thing's picking up enough that jobs have been quit and this is the music for time. We haven't had jobs, we've never had jobs. Oh really? I don't know either. Just because our cheering schedule is really fast. That's really well. Yeah. Well, we don't have much money, but. Yeah, but whatever. If you have to do what you love, here's, I don't know how much money, I can do what I love. The only guy in the band was a job as Mike. And since Christmas, other than this week where we've had really nothing going on, just kind of promo stuff and interviews or whatever. Before this week, we had one shift at his job since January. One, and just, we haven't even been doing that much. It's just been, it's busy.

12:22And then the year we went on tour with the truth was we did Canada four times. Oh really? I didn't know that. That's crazy. So this crosshand to your breath to do is like, it's all in the green. Because if you use to it, you know what's going on. Oh yeah, yeah. We did back in the first season, then I had given you a critical part. We were down in the first one. We didn't there and back. Is that your first time at South Park? Yes. That's fucking crazy. How many shows did you play? Four? Four? See, no one even knows. I was just playing. A bunch. Yeah, well, the beer isn't that expensive down there. I'll tell you that much. It's such a, it's such a, like, there's just almost too much going on. I mean, I think it's like, come to my show, but I kind of want to go see you at the same time. So hard. It's very much a lot of sensory overload. Yeah. Like just walking down the street, you're like, I want to go there, but on your 30 foot journey,

13:09you get distracted by somebody. Here's something else you can do. Yeah, we felt like CMW in North Park. You're doing, whoo. Yeah. It's funny down there. So who did you see itself by? Or did anything happen itself by where you felt like things were moving along for you guys? We just had a bunch of showcases at the Canada House, which is, you know, represent Canadian bands. And everyone knows it's hard to get noticed that sounds nice. You kind of go in knowing that, but I mean, we had a couple of great shows where the room was packed and to met some people and that's, you know, I guess that's all you can hope for it. There's so many buzz bands that sell buses. We have a possible, you know, to see everybody's needs to ride. So who did we even see?

13:55We saw all the same bands that we could see here. But they were serving the green food at Canada, so we were like, we are. We put up shop at Canada House and we just watched all of our friends play for the most part. I think that was like, our Friday night in Saturday was all spent there. But he did end up at this castle. This is a cool story that apparently Robert Bland was there the day before. And like, this castle has like towers and stuff, it's like legitimate. And he apparently walked to the top tower and started singing like immigrants. And he's like, I need to buy this castle because he lives in Austin. And then Kelly Groobers there. And then Kelly Groobers there.

14:40And the Blue Jays. Yeah, and party with him. And he was in Austin too. It was crazy because like, everything from life-sized chessboard in the backyard to actual beer in the basement. I played, big sugar was there. And they were jamming in this bar in the basement. And I like did a tune with them. So I just played like, I just, what did I play with them? Very poorly, is what I did. Very poorly. Some reggae song. It was a reggae song. And it went on for like 40. And I was much a bandster like Gordy and the trees and stuff. And they did it. Two hour reggae jam. I was the two hours. A lot of fun music.

15:26Yeah. And then we went, then we were standing around the bar and all of a sudden Con has tacking me on the shoulder. He's like, who is that guy? I knew he was. I don't know. I don't know. And he's like, oh shit, that's Kelly Groobers. And then the other guy. And he was like, I don't steal the guy. Cool. And then the other guy we were with, Jordan, he's a huge baseball fanatic and he just like started crying. Literally started crying. And then like a life-dex overlord. We're just in this, we're at a party in Windwap's Kelly Groobers. Okay. Drunk as hell. That's what we do, we made it. That was like the funnest night ever. That was the night that we see it like it's Scott.

16:11The other guys. Yeah. We were so tired we went to sleep. We were like, they're prepping that doing anything, whatever. It's always that one time you can never sleep. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's just a big shout-out. It's great. It's like, you know like those beer commercials where it's like, we'll put you up in the castle. You get to see you great rock, roll bed. Hang around with celebrities. That's what's happening. Yeah. The impossible commercial. Yeah. Two seconds. But it does happen. Has that happened? Like any commercials or movies, TV shows? We had a song in the grassy. Yeah. We had a song in the grassy. Yeah. I don't think a giant dog. What else? I'll listen. In terms of other song placements. No, just like sort of NHL plays the weed stuff on NHL level.

16:59And CFL. This is some sports stuff. We did have a song in the grassy. That's one of the things that bands these things have to really get their foot in the door and license their music. Yeah. It's really important. Yeah, exactly. There's no more money left in these. There's only money left in touring and licensing. Yeah. And being good at merch, he does it himself. Yeah. It's definitely something we're looking forward to getting our songs. We're also going to beat the hell of a light bulb. Yeah. That was, you look a little scared in the video. I didn't. You look like you're having fun though. I was. The guy told me to use it. He was like, you need to turn your head away. I can't have. It's sure it's a glass of your eyes.

17:44Do you want another shot? What is that? Amsterdam. Oh, it's the same one. Yes, I would. It was a different one than no. That would be weird. I had that thing with the like, that video. It was so fucking cold. And it was in the midst of like, it looked a lot of the breath. Yeah. It was like the worst thing. Really. It looked great. Because the day we filmed it, the couple days before it was warm. And the wait. There wasn't a long issue to do. Two weeks ago. Oh, and it's already got up. Holy shit, that was quick. Yeah, yeah. Very quick turn around. But the breath thing was, we didn't even know like it was going to, it was cool. It was 70 either. That was that big. I guess there was this lot where they store all the vehicles that they used to shoot the movies and TV here. Right. So there were like fleets and fleets of like New York City taxi cab.

18:30Oh, that's cool cars. They were like helicopters. Yeah, like clearly like the new the cars from the new Robocop. Right. The future cars. Yeah. Awesome. That was good. They wanted to get us to use it in the video. Yeah. But then what's that? I had my Robocop outfit already. I couldn't do it. I was almost an extra on Robocop. Really? Yeah, I can't remember why I couldn't make it. There was a reason. Okay, man. I know. It was gonna play scientist. I know. I can't remember what happened. I think it was in the middle of North by the day where she'd know I was in Ottawa for Blues Fest. That's what it was. Anyway, I know. Too bad. There's another festival that's like, was it ever a Blues Fest? There's now just an awesome Blues Fest. Well, they had a... No, it's not. I'm a close to a... No, I don't know.

19:15Was it like how long it's been? It's like 15 years. It was probably a Blues Fest. It's like all the folk fest that was. Yeah, it's just... No, when the truth headlines, it's not a folk fest. Yeah. It's not a folk fest. I mean, they could do their acoustic set and maybe. No, but the record. I don't have time. So, we gotta get back here. Transformer sounds like you're trying to be Dave Rowell. Does it not even try to be Dave Rowell? That sounds wrong. I like the... That's what I like to say. I mean, as a compliment, it sounds like the cadence and I heard you have trouble trying to sing it. Yes, actually, you know what? I was thinking that when you were asking the question about doing the album and touring and then coming back and doing it. Yeah. That was one of the things is that my voice was so shredded afterwards. Yeah. See, you can hear it, especially on that. And then I'm going to go down, strength in numbers and... Transformer. Right.

20:00See, I don't hear shredded. I hear Dave Rowell. Yeah. I hear like, you could pitch that song to the if they took songs. I mean, I know you're right. So I think that if they took songs, I could see them doing them. Awesome. That's a cool thing. Yeah, I mean, that is a cool thing. I think it's a drummer. I think it's a good thing. Yeah. Oh, yeah, for sure. It must be weird for Taylor. Like, I feel bad for Taylor at times to have to sit behind and be like, I need you to redo that because I could play better than you. Yeah, that's a great thing. I think that's what he made his own band, Taylor Hawking and the... Co-hosts, yeah, writers, or yeah, whatever. Staff is a little... I like that one song. Man, a single one. Yeah, it's a good song. Yeah, it was. Like, he would get up and... Oh, really? I have never seen him. Yeah. I don't know how that's happened, but... I don't think he's... I don't think they've been up here recently, but other than that, I don't know. I don't go to those huge shows. I don't have a funny show.

20:45I'm getting free tickets and I'm not going. Scott saw them in like, 2004. A few fighters, Sloan, and the Constantines. Oh my God, that would have been amazing. That's really cool. It's pretty, it's too bad about the cost. I know. Like, there's a part of me that wants... Like, I know... Just a block on the mic. Um, Kid Rock is doing a huge tour. He's only charging... $20 bucks a ticket and... Someone cares me. And, uh, four bucks a beer. Dave wants to go to that for the beer. I want to go to that for the beer. And hang out with Kid Rock for two hours. Do you guys read Bob Lefcents? Yeah, he wrote a whole article on that. So he explained it's okay. So that's a good story. So it's just going to explain the letter.

21:30If you didn't know it, but I was just going to explain what the letter said. But you guys got it. Like the guy who owns LiveNation? Yeah. Which is... No, not owns. Like, Crapino. He owns LiveNation. No, he doesn't know. He runs it. He's the keys to talk to it. Oh, because it's on the stock line. Anyway, some Thunderbase, ThunderBeats transplants, Wurrken LiveNation. Oh, man. That's good. Who do you guys do what you're doing now from ThunderBeats? Nope. Nope. Nope. You have to be in a major market. Yes. I don't think you can do music in Canada without being in Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal or Halifax. There's only four, like, in a sense. At least if you're close to one of them.

22:15Like, ThunderBeats is 18 hours from any. Yeah. But there's no way of getting around it in Canada. Like, if you're a touring band, the Chats Canada Highway only goes through one... It only goes through ThunderBeats only on Highway. So if you're coming across Canada, every band plays ThunderBeats. But no man. It's not a small city. There's 120,000 people. I hear bands who really well there, though. Like, they sell merch and people come to show, and people go out. I guess this is not much to do. Yeah, exactly. There's a good little community of people enjoying music. But I mean, in terms of getting looks and touring opportunities and all the things that come with being in Toronto, there's no way you can do it if that's ever been. When you moved here three years to Canada, did you expect things to go this quickly?

23:03No. Or did you expect me slugging in out playing shows here down the road for like a long time? Yeah. You'd never expect that you'd be in your year like a record deal. Right. And for the first year, that's what we did. We played almost too much. People were telling us that you guys were playing too much. Yeah. Playing every week and... I think we're good. Yeah, no. Are you guys a band? Yeah. You're not paying me, are you? No. I'm a street mouth nurse. Oh, look at the hat. Here you go. I wish. Then I can afford another picture. I know. Is he ready? He was at one point. I hope so. If he saved his money or anything like that.

23:48Yeah. I like this is famous. Yeah. Which means someone we'd give him a free picture or something. People that are rich and don't need it always get free. That is so true. It's so true. It's because we can go. It is. It's the right. I watched an interview with Malcolm Miss recently. There's this thing called soft focus. Yeah. You know that they got from the make-ups and stuff. Okay. You know what I'm paying records to make up? Okay. Anyways, I'm a dirty. No. He conducts the interview. He did like, son of a kid, suicide and coop and Malcolm Miss. Malcolm Miss is just so like in, I don't know. He's like, oh, you should have to shave him and she and us. Yeah. Wow. But suicide really like nice and like, oh yeah, we didn't know. We were so great. I like us.

24:34Two spectrums being that indie band. This isn't being recorded. It is, but I'll cut it for a second. This is going to be. This is going to be an interview. Look at the supercave. It would have been a little bit of a job. I don't remember. I don't remember either. Okay. Let's go to the next one. No, we're talking about slugging it out. Moving to Toronto. Yeah. It's been a time. I'm trying to leave a question. I got a question and I had something and I lost it. It's all good. It's just a little bit cool. Yeah, it would have been the best one out of the world. I think it's a little bit cool. What else do I have? That was pretty much everything anyway. Let's go. I like that real trash. No, no. And you know what? I think. Have you been in...

25:19Okay, no, go. Hopefully that means I think the drumming is going to be too. We're the drumming thing, bro. Shit. Is that the one with the tombs? There's one song with the tombs that are really good. It's probably shaking. Probably shaking the fingers. It was early in the record. Okay. Shit, now I lost it again. I had it outside. I'm going to get a little bit of the record. Larry, maybe it was a little bit of Larry. No. Okay, let's see five questions and then maybe it'll come back to me. Five good questions, one more answer. Everyone can answer. Okay. This is a different. This is a good gimmick. It's going to come again and I'll keep the make. Take one. Awesome. Thank you very much. Awesome. Right up the street. Wow. No, no, back.

26:05I'm sorry. What about that? It's good, I'm talking. Okay. So, if I have quick questions, one more answer. Road or studio? Road. Road. Lening or McCartney? How do you get this one? He did this with me even by ass just probably shit. Oh, very late in the night. Late in? Oh yeah. Matthew? It's not even going to be a good one. It's not going to be a good one. When you hear some, usually it's your first lyrics, melody, or rhythm. Oh, it's not going to be a good one. Being a drummer and rhythm. It's always rhythm from the drummers. I kind of hear rhythm guitar sometimes. Depends. That's both rhythm and rhythm. I think it's either a different lyrics.

26:50You can be singing with whatever. Really? Has it lyricists you feel that way? Yeah, today. You think those people that have big smash bits are singing about anything? No, they are not. I agree with you. But when you wrote a song like that, I think that you care about what you're saying. I... Yes, you care about yourself. I'm a new pre-em. Actually an old pre-em. Because you care about your lyrics. So are you just using catchy in the middle? Yeah. So do you sit there and analyze your lyrics? Do you sit there and really go back and forth and say, I'm not saying what I want to say. In all honesty, there's been very few times where I've written something on purpose. Usually I'm just writing and then I'm like, this is a good line, it was a good line, and then I'll sit back after.

27:36And it will somehow form a cogent song. It's straight. Nobody hears that from a lot of people. So you just work on it and you hope for the best. And if you think about it too much, it's probably not worth it. It's often like I'll... If it comes back to me and stuff, I'll be just humming a melody. And then I'll record myself singing, just slurring words. And then I'll just match up words with the slurries. And it just comes out as songs. I'm going to go back and listen to the record. This doesn't make sense. This is crazy. The song I'm writing was really drunk. This one's elbow reindeer. The state. I'm going to print that. What did you say?

28:21This is a elbow reindeer. The one that likes reindeer. Oh, song you've written your most proud of. Writing your part's count. I'm going to say transform because you just said it. Because I like it. Off this record you have to. No, but sometimes it's good too. I'm just proud of it. It's been my favorite song for some reason those are the two that really stuck out for me. I like the solo I came up with inside of the times. It's very brief and nonexistent, but I like it. I guess to the point, right? Yeah. Because you can't really write a big long solo anymore because no one really cares about that. That's interesting. Disappointing for me. But you could drag it up live if you want to.

29:06Yeah, live. We drank certain things a lot. Sounds like a kind of want to though. Crowd surfing, yeah. Well, Brandon from UConn Crowds, there's. Yeah. Even when they were playing big shows, he would still go and do it. He just puts his guitar down and like this. It's amazing. Oh yeah, you were at Edge Fast. Yeah, you saw that. Oh, sorry. I guess you want more beer? I think we're good. I'm good. Thank you. In one word for young things. Gritty. Gritty. Gritty. Gritty. Entertaining. Nice. Don't say handsome. Hungry. Oh, that's good. That works up me a little. I like that. Yeah, you're a little famous right now?

29:53Yeah, a little gorgeous. This is not going to do with it. Why do you go by the mat? Because I always go back and forth and I'm like, I wonder which. I always thought when you have the option of like Mike or Michael or whatever, Dave or David, why do you choose, this is not part of the interview. This has been something that's been fascinating lately for no reason. Why you choose that one? Both of you. I just, I don't know. I don't really like the way Matthew sounds. No, me neither. It just reminds me of Matthew. Matthew, play the room. That's my problem. Only my parents call me Matthew. I think because yeah, everyone in my family pretty much calls me Matthew. Nobody, you guys would be. Hey, Matthew, what's up with you? I'm at least Mike here. Even my girlfriend only gives. Really? Okay. The sheet mill is the one.

30:39Yeah, just like my grandfather's name is David. And when we were ever together, I'd be Dave and maybe David. He was only wondering. Okay. He just, he had pertains to me. Yeah. Why do you shorten your name? Con-radical. Because that's the full name. Yeah, that's fine. We can be conning maybe. Conning. Yeah, some people like my grandma. Oh yeah, okay. That's it. Oh, conning. What do you do? Matt, I'm just not. Well, most people call me Shiktor, but yeah, Matt. But I want to start like when I'm writing articles or whatever, I want to start using Matthew and then like just having like my name out there being Matthew. Matthew. So, there are only people know me coming back. You know, like Robert De Niro involved. Yeah. That's what I'm at the level. No, that's cool.

31:24Right. But I like how that happens. How many people that know you? So, when you hear that name, you're like, oh, I must know this person. So, you run in so many people and you're like, I'm fucking up. You are. And you know who I am. Yeah, Bob Stinger. Yeah, right. So. Yeah. I think you should. Yeah, you must be getting to that level. I'm just like, where are we at here for time? I got some. Is it at that level where people are coming up to you and you're like, and they know who you are, but you're just like, I have no clue who you are. Very. No, not yet. Okay. Once in a while. Hopefully. Like I say, we'll play at the horseshoe one night and the next day. It's only half and once. I'm joking. So, girl, it's not to be. She's like, are you and pretty? Are you and pretty young things? We get that too more often than. I was like, no, I'm in poor young things.

32:09She's like, oh, I saw you play at the horseshoe and that's the only time that's happened. That must be nice. That must be a cool thing. Yeah. It's like, yeah. My girlfriend was there with me. So, it's like, yeah. We've been announced as pretty young things. Really? That's all. I'm pretty young. Just because we use the acronym, like, P-Y-T, just for shortening sake. I think Twitter and my not, but, like, P-Y, that was the name of the Michael Jackson. Yeah, right. It was P-Y-T. So, people can call us pretty young things. We played the show in Manateele, but. We should use it as a walk-on music. Yeah, I know. You're on stage. That's not bad. I can't remember what it sounds like. Oh, no, it's kind of like a... I can walk out to that. Like, everybody goes to the x-spot. To get you a little pop.

32:54Really? Oh, yeah. That's great. Anything else you guys want to plug in, anything else you guys want to talk about? I know you've got the track by tracks coming out every day, every week. Yeah, that's every day, the next week. The most fun is welcome until next week anyway. Will this be a... When will this be a show? I'm hoping. I have no say, like, I'll trans-all get my bro to be subscribed tomorrow, but it seems like shit goes up whenever they feel like it. I have no say, I send them an email being like, like, I did one with LL Cool J April 30th record coming out. NCIS, Finale's May 14th and it's still not up on the start. I gave it to you like three weeks ago. I said that up. Yeah, but yeah. Do you not want to touch on it?

33:39No, he really would. Like, I... We were talking about being younger and like, when he was 18 or something and then I was like, oh, that's a good time. The 18 year old LL have been... Acted the same way and been so mature about the situation. He was like, no, I would have fucking gone off the hook, whatever. And then he just, like, lashed out for five minutes and I was like, well, I didn't really expect you to go for five minutes out of our 15 on you defending yourself. So, I could have a look at it. And like, let's see back that tune. I don't know if you've heard it. I only listened to it for that interview and... He's not saying anything crazy. It's not... I don't know why that became such a thing. I mean, it's great publicity for his record, but... Well, there's the line that's like... Exactly. You forget the... The doo rags and Confederate cars. Something chains off, forget the something chains.

34:25Like, if you think the go chains out would give the slaggy chains, like, that was... Come on. But it's like, I see what is pointable. I guess it's like everyone should just not get over it, but... Yeah. Like... There's a time to kind of... Each of them, yeah. Not... Anyway, this is quite a good one. I'm not sure if it needs to. I like to say it's a whale of food, Jim. Yeah, but I can't print it. Now it's just more to transcribe. Oh, yeah. It turns the plugs. If you want to throw the horseshoe up there... Put it here on the guesses, by the way, obviously. Thank you. May 25th. Yeah. What else? Just check out the tour dates on... Check out the tour dates on... ...to where we're on... ...quaringthings.com. Yeah, definitely. We'll be doing the next... ...to our Canadian dates. For sure. Yeah, yeah.

35:10And you're basically playing everywhere. Pretty much. Yep. But nothing... Like, I saw the routing and then it's like New Brunswick and then Saskatchewan. Yeah, that one's tough. Well, it's a good fun drive. Which I mean, I don't know why there's no showing Montreal. Probably didn't work out this time. Montreal's kind of tough to get... ...thinks and sometimes when you don't have a solid... ...you know, lodging there. But, yeah, that's probably the only crappy drive. If you're doing cross-canada, you either start in Southern Ontario, go one way and then come back to the other. Yeah, or just start from a... ...because most bands will fly to the West Coast. From Toronto and just start from a different... ...to what makes it up. Yeah. But you have like 10 shows in this area. Yeah. Some exciting stuff. It's nice too. So you could kind of come home and like...

35:56...do your laundry and you don't have to live out of a suitcase for half of your... ...that's where I was going to be able to continue with that. Yeah. Yeah, so you go out west or east story and then play shows out there. You'll come home with all your dirty laundry but you'll keep playing shows and touring. But you'll just be around the GTA and you'll sleep in your own bed every night. Yeah. And then you load up and then you go out west. And then... Which, every drive is like eight hours. And it's hard... We... I listened to the bass player from Treasure Me, who puts the name in. Goord. St. Clair. St. Clair, yes. Talk about how he thinks that bands from bands who tour in Canada... ...become so much more... ...so much so much essentially better like live performers. And because they have to use Canada and bands in the States can just stay in their little pocket.

36:46Like if you're a West Coast band, you never have to do those. You know, you're playing till 2 a.m. You get to back in the hotel at 3 a.m. You wake up next morning at 8 a.m. To make that 10 hour drive just to make sounds. So I can do that five days in a row. Like doing the West Coast, right? Bands there in Little Pockets like the East Coast. And you're from New York or West Coast. Yeah, you can only have to go like two or three hours to play all their shows. And they never get the sort of really tough in winter touring. Yeah. Oh. Not fun sometimes. Not fun. Lots of time. There's like the 45 minutes when you're on stage. That's like... Yeah, exactly. So much fun. And then you're like, okay, time to load out gear.

37:31Put on your fucking parka. And like, you're sweating. So you're like, your sweat is freezing to your forehead as you're loading in gear in Regina. There is a feeling of us sitting in the van post show and you're sweating. Like you've just swept, but it's like kind of starting to dry. Yeah. And you have to drive like seven hours. And it is the worst feeling I would not wish it on any first. No, the worst one, you're just like, I need to go into a gas station bathroom and just wash myself. Yeah. This is so gross. The worst is this truck stop shower. I like those. I don't think I would ever do that. I don't think I would ever do that. Oh, you should try it. They're private. They're very private. Also, what does it mean?

38:16The what I meant. You knew that you were born. They're extremely private. I mean, shower sounds. Yeah. They're on purpose. But we drove from like... I've been to one in Memphis weirdly enough. Yeah. That's what I felt better. But I feel like the police say, I don't know. All over. You know, I was going to ask if you guys are ready for like living on the road. Like, I feel like this is going to be the year we're going to do like 200 plus. Yeah. And just be, and never be home. Well, last year we did 150. Okay. So, almost there. We're up. It's kind of like we've been slowly getting used to it, but I mean, yeah. It's just, it's what it takes. It's like every band. Every band who gets to that point where they're like, okay, yes. We can do whatever venue we want. You know, to a certain extent we get it. It's sell out shows and stuff.

39:02Every band at some point started grinding it out and played, you know, when it picked four times before they could get sell out wherever. Or played Vancouver, you know, like six times before they could get back. And then we had to headline the boat theater or something like that. It takes time. So, like I think we're willing to do the time on the road to get to that point. Like we don't, we don't have careers. We're not doing anything else. Yeah. It's like we don't really. It gets a little much. Well, it's a different lifestyle. It gets a little much to be like a really different world. Like you come over a week. That's great. But like this past month has been just like sitting around for a month. Like just like cabin people.

39:48It's crazy. I like to watch TV shows. That's what I was getting to. Yeah. But there's only so many that they exist and I pretty much watch them. I did the foot in sopranos in like 10 days. It's cold. It's tears. That's impressive. I know. So getting out on the road is like I feel like I'm working and I'm doing something. It's changed. And it's fun and, you know, it's like an adventure every day. And you can do people, you can do different things. It's very cool. But then you have to sit in the van so sweaty. And then you think you saw the summer touring of Canada is like the greatest. Yes. That is great. If big if your air conditioning works in your van. Yes. Fair enough.

40:33At this point for us it doesn't. Oh, you just banned the dress. You just got a quick back and forth. You just got to die. Austin, he did not work. Oh yeah. We're the CDs. There you go. Oh, we just got it fixed. That's a fun drive. Oh, great. So we had all the windows. All the windows open. So it's like. So like you can't listen to music because it's just like it's same time. Can't read your books. Yeah. Yeah. How much press have you guys done? You were saying when I sat down you guys have been doing press for like a week now. Yeah, it's just kind of ramping up right now. It's just kind of starting. Oh, that's good. Charles doing a good job. Yeah. Great. We're going to be at Canada AM. Nice. On the 21st. Is that on the 21st. The day of our album release we have Canada AM. Then we have to drive to Ottawa and play. Right. Yeah.

41:18So that's where it starts. Yeah. So 6.30 in the morning. Is that what time our loading is? Wait. Wait. Is that in? No. It's here. It's here. There's in Ottawa. It's Canada AM. It's here. Kids in Toronto. Yeah. So we have to do the thing at 8.15 and then drive to Ottawa. That's the funny at the time. We have to show Rob Kingston to do the radio and do the show. Wait. We have radio and Kingston the day at the Ottawa show? Oh, that's good. No, we have radio and Kingston day at Kingston show. Okay. What day is that? That's a good station today. Yeah. We have to go to the 21st. You got to go to the 31st. I got to go. I'm going to interview our media pre-15. We'll be meeting with the bosses for the Watch Music Awards. Got to figure out what we're doing. Yeah. Our video is on the much music. I saw that. It's amazing. The last year or three awards I don't know who the land these kids are.

42:04Like these little starlets. These little theme shows I'm going to start. This is like I have nobody for the fuck. Do you use that boosting sign? I'm so excited. I love sign. Really? I had a good talk. I didn't know. He was impressed. He was like how do you notice? I was like do my research. You've done everybody. Where were you just recently? I was in Vegas this weekend. Yeah. It was fun. For the hangover people they were awesome. Oh, Ken Young. Ken Young and all of them. It was great. Zach was hilarious. Oh yeah. And there's a fake Zach walking around the streets like it looked like. He stood in for him in part three. He's making so much money on the street taking pictures of people. Do you think it's like an act? Like it's normal. He was fairly normal off camera. That's what I mean by off camera. Is he putting his...

42:49I mean he's... I don't know if it was an actor if he was just tired. He seemed normal without it. And as soon as it was rolling he was like yeah. It was a great centric. But it was fun. I enjoyed it. The movie stuff is nice. It's different. I mean I've been doing the music stuff for like ten years now. So it's nice to try going in that different direction. It's talking about different stuff for once. Not that I mind this. No, must be fun going to Vegas. It's not going to Vegas. It's better than... I said going to Vegas is a bit better. No, no, this is nice. Nice hours. It's a bad road. Yeah, we said it's a good day. I'm glad it is. Yeah, we'll just get the bell. You're going by the way. We're going by the way. We're going to pour in things. Give him the disc. No, that's serious. I just want to...

43:34You're on a record. That's okay. What is this? Is it record? Yeah, it's a CD. It's a 5-9. One of these things we used to have. It's the panels. It's a little mini-vinyl. It's like a 45. Right on. When you guys play it? We're glad that we're shooting Nick. This is the next Saturday. Yeah, 25th is my favorite. Cool. I got to show these 25th. Oh, what do you play? Double double land. We're called Sound Memory. Sound Memory? Sound Memory? We're kind of music. We're at, sorry? Double, Double Land. We're in Kensington. Oh, yeah. We're playing with opening for, you know, outstrung? Yeah, it's just... Oh, yeah. So Maya is the drummer in her side project, his pre-

44:26I think compared to like my buddy now in time. Okay. It's like a zero-dendy. Yeah. And how they see it, you can barely make up the vocals. Yeah. Hang on. Cool, man. Yeah, so I'll look for you guys next time when we're playing on the same day. That's great. I'll bring you the call and take these away. Oh, thank you, Dave. Thanks, man. Thanks, man. So how are our apps there? I know. How about the meetings? I like what happened. Yes. I just like who could be cheer for? I just like what happened. I just like the results. Yeah, I know. And I have that with the buddy for a two for every year and who finishes hiring the standings. But we don't have a clause for both of us to make the first round. Yeah, I'm like... So, Montreal finished hiring the standings, but Toronto played two more games in the first round.

45:12So I don't know what... I think you guys should just... Thanks again, guys. Maya, bottom of Ramen just can happen. Yeah, I think that's going to happen. We'll buy a two if I want to split it. Which will be nice. I don't mind going from the last place in the east to second though. See, growing up in Thunder Bay, very solidly DC like... I love summer dresses so much. We get like six months of summer dresses here. In Thunder Bay, there's like one weekend. Yeah, Thunder Bay's the main expo. I was in the category for a long time. I know the feeling. Yeah. So here's my life. No, I worked in radio out there for like six, seven years. Subtracture, all right? Like an hour run. And what are they? Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Oh, the heart and the head, the end. Yeah. What does it mean? Stupid question. I'll just throw it in the ark. I'll just fade it up. No, but you say it's one of the songs, don't you?

45:57Yeah, it's the very last thing on the whole album and it ties the whole thing together. So... Were these just sorters that sounded like they would work? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there we go. There was a saying that was like, don't let success go to your head and don't let failure go to your heart. That's interesting. I like that. Yeah. But I think that the human beings, every decision... Yeah, it's a really simple player. Every decision you'll ever make in your whole life will either be based on your heart, which you've got feeling or your head. Like you're planning it. It's like you want to go to a good college because you want to get the thing or you want to

46:42be musicians. Be musicians isn't based on your head. That is cool. So I just thought that was a cool line. Ties up. Yeah, but cool. I expect big things. Thank you very much. You're great enough. Anytime, guys. That's a good one. See you later. Yeah. Bye.

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