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Episode #605 · LyonOctober 2013 · 00:08:55
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0:06Hey, I'm lying and you're watching Emphonics, Christmas. The first music video, first big music video. Yeah. Tell me about it. Um, well, we got sent like a few different treatments, so I read maybe like ten different versions of what the video could be. And, uh, some were pretty hilarious.
0:54But, um, the one we landed on just when I read it through was like, exactly what I wanted for this video. Which is funny because a lot of people are surprised that it seems a little bit darker than one movie. And they're expecting for what might sound like the first listen is like a happy summer song. Um, but I just thought the video would be like the video that we're putting in the music video. Sure. Have you had any TV or movies? Like it's a perfect song for a TV show or a movie. Has it been a knocks-a-mitter yet? Um, not yet, but I have a feeling I think that's like next on the list. Next on the list. Things are moving very quickly though. I was going through the timeline of stuff, so it's signed in like June, uh, single July, uh, EP, rather August. The timeline show tonight. So what's it, what, where does this ladder keep flying? I don't know, I hope it keeps going.
1:40I hope it's just the beginning, but um. What would you like, what would you like to see out? It's a good question, I guess. I guess. Not sure. I think it's a good question. Um, yeah, I mean, I can only kind of look at just what's around the corner. So I just want to keep flying more shows. I'm just happy that more people are hearing the song, that it's, you know, I'm starting to get tweets from like Vancouver and Montreal saying we saw your video and much music and that is obviously a new experience for me and it's just really exciting. And even beyond that, even um, you know, like some UK, um, like podcasts or whatnot or blogs or certain talk about it, it's just so many that, um, this is just becoming, you know, so much of a bigger thing than it has been for a while. Right.
2:25That's amazing. So, so, um, I asked this question yesterday and we just, because we did the same thing with Serena Ryder, we had a bunch of fan questions come up. I'll throw one of them at you. What is your dream city now that now you're going to be moving on the step up touring the world, probably living life on the road, where do, where, like, what is your dream place to play? Uh, well, I do definitely want to go across the pond. I definitely do want to end up in England at some point, but maybe in the short term I've never actually been to New York, so I think that would be a really cool place to play. Also, it's like, see you over there. And it's like, yeah, I got to have some fun while you're out there. Um, so you've talked a lot about the loss that inspired this record band relationship, France, all that stuff. Um, do we need to keep you sad to keep creating good and good songs? Like, can you be happy and write good songs?
3:10That's a very good question. I'm sure it lasts. So that's, that's already a step up from, I think that's a good question. Yeah. Okay. Um, I think, you know, I'm sure people in my team are wondering that. But, um, I'm a pretty, I'm an artist, I'm a pretty emotional person, so, um, you know, there's episodes and builds all the time. You know, things do seem like they're going out, but there's all sorts of roller coasters along the way, so there's always like, you know, tons of new experiences to be writing, but it's going to have a different spend than the last one, but I'm sure I'll have lots of things that are more to be writing. It already sounds like you have an idea. Yeah. So, so where were we at in the process? Um, I mean these songs are what, a year old or so? Yeah, we're just actually getting love again. So, yeah, I'm working with, um, Jip-up, Mulligan, who I wrote with, um, for the E.D. so, I'm starting to get a deal with you.
4:02How the two E.F. library do you, do you start with piano riffs and hillad, program drums and all that stuff over at New Orleans? So, what happened for the D.P. is, um, I prepared a little bit and then I came in and I actually, I came in with lullaby, which is the most acoustic one first, and um, I played it for him from, you know, like the first first right up until the chorus, which I hung right in. And it just kind of came out of the exact way that I had written it at the time, and uh, Jip-up just looked at me and he had his guitar and he just started singing the next part, and I just looked at him and I was like, okay, this is awesome. This is how it's been working out. So, it was just very, um, very collaborative. It was, you know, we just would hang out, sometimes for like seven hours and not really accomplish much at all, other than talk about a million different things, or drink wine, or whatever.
4:52I think, I still, you said that's not a problem, I think that's still a problem. I think it is. I guess from more of a, you know, paper standpoint, a part of it. But then that said, the next time we meet, maybe for half an hour, and we have, you know, a whole part of the song sometimes. So, we probably only had like maybe seven or eight sessions together altogether. It happened very quickly. And then, um, I, you've mentioned the sounds, which came a little bit after, because yeah, it was written more at the piano and guitar. And then I knew that I wanted it to go in more of an electronic kind of direction, and he was able to sort of capture those sounds and help me sort of dress it up if you will. And that's all. I heard you say that lullaby was the hardest and easiest song to write. So, what do you mean by that?
5:39Well, I read in spurts. So, I guess I could say, leading up to that, because of some crap that is going through at the time, and just sort of feeling kind of lost. I hadn't really written much for a few months. And then, um, I knew that I hadn't written any writing session coming up with him. So, that was sort of like kicking the butt to like, have something to show. So, I just, I took my writing book and I shut myself in my room. And I was just like, okay, I gotta come up with something here. And it's been sort of gnawing at me for a long time. So, um, I think it was just, I just needed that final shove. And when I shut myself in the room, I just, it sounds really weak. But I just cried. And it just, like, like I said, the whole first, up until the first. I just poured out. And pretty much one go. And I just didn't even, we didn't even add it after that, because it just felt like that was what needed to be said at the time.
6:32So, how are you gonna fill up a set? I mean, the EP's only five songs. How do you do a show? Yeah, we're in a couple covers. Yeah, just some favorite songs. And, yeah, I also have some string players joining me tonight at the show. So, we've added in a few little instruments a little bit to that. Do you play violin in the show? I do, yeah. I'm in violin for my first instrument, so I started that when I was like three now. So, I'm very comfortable in the violin and it's like my first love, I guess. So, I play it in goodbye. I play it actually a little bit in happy love. That's right. Cool. Oh, who's Moon in Japan? I'm curious if it's Moon Fellows? Did you see that? Was that a nice thing? I don't know what it was. I just knew he searched on a fire.
7:18Oh, that's funny. I don't know. That's like a few years old, I think. But yeah, he's like a random... So, he's not a fan anymore? He's left you? I don't know. I don't know. You have the first Japanese fan, then he just has a big name. I know he made the switch from my floor in Malian days to the lion days. Maybe, maybe he's from... Maybe he used to know. Maybe he used to love Moon Fellows. Maybe he'll watch this, and I'll find it. I forgot to go back. You got your crazed out of this thing? He's been a character. We all know them. We do something called Five Questions, Five Third Questions, one more answers. Road or Studio? I'm in a state studio just because I just love being in a studio.
8:03And I haven't done road or walk. I'm really on my live state one more. No, I prefer... It's supposed to be one we're having, I don't think I found it. It's supposed to be like one more answer, but it's probably the most valuable thing. I feel like my answer might change after I've been on the road. Okay. But up to this point, it's two years. Cool. Lemon or recurve? Great. When you hear someone usually hits you first, lyrics, melody, or the moon. Melody. For someone who's never heard Lion before. What song do they turn? It's a word. And in one word, Lion. It's gonna stand to see, but I want to say it hurts. Oh, that's nice. Cool. Thank you. Amazing.
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