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Idle Sons

Musicians Mike Eastick, Sean Kelly, Bruce Nicol and Ryan Bardwell from the band Idle Sons (Tell Me, Waiting Around) chat with Matt Schichter in Calgary.

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Episode #85 · Idle SonsNovember 2006 · 00:07:39

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0:00Talking here with the guys from Idol Sons. Sixteen seasons, I love the title of the record because, you know, I mean, it really encompasses everything that's happened you guys over the past few years. I'm sure you're sick of the whole, was the album title and all that crap. But I just, I think it's amazing. It really, you know, shows what happened to you guys. And it's, I can't, you must be just laughing at Warner right now and just saying, look, what we did. Well, you know, it's nice to get a second chance. You don't get them all, you know, all that often. And, yeah, you know, I mean, we think they passed up a good thing, you know. So now we got Anthony and the EMI guys having our back and it feels good just to be able to get out there and have a chance, a stab at it. Because that's all we really wanted, right? Was just to get it out there and have a chance. So. Exactly. And you rerecord a lot of stuff, reworked some old material. I'm wondering that unreleased record from like five years back.

0:46Right. Was it rockier? I mean, songs like Bleeding in this evening from the original CD, they got that heavier song, but I mean, the single. Now that was reworked. Was it, was it as rocky or as rocky? It was actually a brand new song. Waiting around, sorry. Waiting around, sorry. Yeah, yeah, sorry. Yeah. It's actually probably grittier and heavier on the record. On the new record? Yeah, on the new record. OK, cool. It's got a little more edge to it. It's a little more of a live feel to it. Yeah, I think it definitely benefited from. The reworking. The reworking. And the newer songs too are like a lot more up tempo, like more straight ahead sort of just in your face, balls to the wall if you will, rock. Yeah. And so it definitely benefited the feel of the record greatly. Yeah, the song like Maggot, you're talking about it. The Maggot, a little bit less. Tell me all like up tempo songs.

1:32Those are all the newer songs. Yeah. Even with the writing we're doing now, like our next project will be probably a lot more up tempo songs, like a little, not heavier, so to speak, but just more driving. Yeah, more driving rock songs. Cool. Well, I mean, touring with the guys you're touring with now through to his grace theory, I mean, that's going to obviously influence the sound of the new stuff. For sure. Yeah. I mean, great bands, great music. So it's not a bad group of guys to be around, you know. I mean, I think what's there? Four new songs in this record, the rest of the stuff's reworked, older stuff. We've got four brand new songs, four we stripped the right down to the bone and reworked all the way up, and four we remixed. Oh, just remixed using the original tracks and everything. Oh, that's pretty cool. What made you do that and not rework those ones? You just like the way they sound like that? Time and money, time and money. The usual restraints, yeah, I got you.

2:18You must have a huge backlog of new stuff. I mean, most of the songs are pretty older. Are you riding on the road or are you getting new stuff out? When can we expect to hear? I guess the singles are still coming out now. Yeah, I mean, we're just sort of in the midst of trying to pump this record up. But so we'll be doing this for, hopefully, as long as we possibly can, you know, that work in this record. But as far as new stuff, yeah, we have a huge backlog of new ideas, you know, whether they be songs or riffs or choruses or, you know, verse ideas. We got a lot of stuff on the go. So once it comes time to do a new record, it'll be like bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. Yeah, should be nice and easy. I mean, the honey won't be an issue. Yeah, the hope is that we can stay on the road promoting this record if it's still, you know, if it's still an audience there, if it's still doing well, and if the radio is still supporting it, I mean, we'll probably be on the road at least

3:03till the next summer, I'd imagine. Oh, wow, what are the plans for the States you're gonna go down there too? Or just doing Canada? Yeah, we're just focusing on Canada right now and looking towards the States in the future. But right now, our main emphasis is on our home country. Very nice. I mean, we did it the other way last time with the deal that went south. So we thought maybe it's a good idea to start it at home and then branch out, you know? I like that, the deal from down south. Down south. Down south. Nice pun, very nice pun. I didn't mean to say that. Tell me about Fingar 11. I know they produced you demo, like childhood friends. I mean, must be pretty cool. Two bands from that area, you know, going to school together and now, I mean, all over the radio and stuff. It must be really cool for you guys. Yeah, it's awesome, man. They taught us a lot of stuff, you know, they took us, they're the first band to take us out on the road and. Cool.

3:49Yeah, they produced a three song demo. Any of those two show up in the record? What's that? Any of those two show up in the record? Actually, all of them are. All of them did. No, no way, that's awesome. Which three are the? No, forever, waiting around. Long way home. And long way home. Waiting around's a really old tune then. Yeah, it's relatively old. I mean, some of them are. That's the thing about the record is, there's some songs on there that are very old. There's some very new stuff. There's Middle of the Road sort of, you know, so it's sort of a collection of the best material we had and put together on one desk. It's like the first best of. Yeah. You know, so. But no, those guys are great. I mean, really, they came into the studio and we worked on the songs together. You know, they blended their input and stuff. And that was a great experience.

4:34And we've toured with them a bunch of times since and, you know, we still hang out. We're really good friends and, you know, they support us to the nines. So it's a great relationship, man. It's awesome. I know they were in the studio those past summer. Do you know where they're up to on stuff? They're done. They're done. They're done the record. Wait, can we hear it? Not totally sure. I think I can't even speculate. I'm totally sure. But I heard it. It's awesome. It's really amazing. It's a new little different sound for them. It's going to be really kick-ass, oh, man. Awesome. Can't wait to hear it. Downloading music, obviously, a very big thing these days. You guys worked at the Canadian Poker Championships. Tell me it was on that thing. And that seems to be the way that if you're going to put music out there, I mean, the radio sure it works, but not like it used to. You got to throw it on TV, internet ads, all this kind of stuff. How do you guys feel about that?

5:19I mean, we seem to be losing kind of like the album concept with iPods and all that kind of stuff. Well, I mean, with us, we still buy the records. We're a part of that world with Max and iPods and all that. But we buy the records to have the sleeves and our work. We just then put them on to our computers and iPods. The problem is when people just rip it for free, you know, and steal it. And with iTunes too, I mean, like, I think Sean and I do this a lot. Like, we buy full albums off there. And you get the artwork with it as well. So I mean, you don't have that tangible thing that you can hold in your hand, but it's almost the same. You know what I mean? But just like Mike said, it just gets out of hand when you take those same files and put them up on a sharing network and then 10,000 people can get it for free. However, it might bring more kids to the live show that wouldn't necessarily be. It benefited us.

6:05Yeah. Do you think it did? For sure. It helped you more than harm to you? Yeah. So the side is obviously, you know, people aren't paying for the records. The upside is a lot of kids who maybe can't afford the records, get it for free and then come to the shows. So. And then maybe buy it there. And maybe buy it there. So, you know, your live shows benefit, but your record sales aren't benefited. But I mean, if you have a good song and people still buy records, you know, like bands still go platinum and stuff. And, you know, so we're touring with two of them right now. Yeah. So I mean, it's still possible to do. There's rumors, like just rumors in the industry talking about changing like where gold records are and where platinum records are and that's. Like it won't be a million or any more in the States. Well, I don't know for sure. But like there's a committee that was that I think it was a few weeks back that discussed doing that

6:51because sales have dropped so much. Yeah. So they might just have to do that. And then, you know, still got a gold record with a lot less sales. Yeah, that'd be cool. Well, it's less up here, right, in the States. Yeah. It's the one tenth. Yeah. One tenth. Wow. I guess it's like one tenth of population. So it works out. Yeah. Because both want to do it or all four, you want to do it or? We'll take one each and then someone can double up. Yeah. OK. Cool. iPod or CDs? iPod. Landon or McCartney? Landon. Palk or Biggie? Biggie. Alcohol or marijuana? Alcohol. And one word, idle sons. Relentless. Nice. Relentless. Cool, guys. Thank you.

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