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Episode #230 · Paul BearerOctober 2010 · 00:09:01
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0:00How how has your trip to Canada? It's been a while. There has been a long time. I've been six years. Six years really. I've been away for six years. Yes. So there is like like being a newbie again. I saw on your Twitter that you were planning a little visit with Brett. You have to see him. Yes, I did. Yeah, I did. We had a very good visit. Been a long time for that thing. You know, I can imagine. So, um, so I guess we'll start with the show tonight. I mean, what can you divulge? What can you say? What are you doing this evening? I don't know. When do they when do they tell you these things? Not yet. I don't know. The main thing is that I'm here and at the undertakers in the house and that my son came to the house and that I am back. You know, after six years after.
0:47And healthier than ever from what I hear. And things are good. Yes. Amazing. And just a big, you know, smack down taping tonight. That on air on Friday and tickets are still available. And I want to go. I want to go back with you because I didn't know this. I just figured, you know, the Paul Bearer character was, you know, someone's idea. I didn't know you were an actual funeral director as well. Absolutely. I have a degree in mortuary science. It's like it was like a match made in heaven or perhaps hell for you to be. Yeah, it depends on the day. Yeah. I've been in the funeral business and wrestling since I was a teenager. And I've always I have degree in mortuary science and we just it was just a coincidence.
1:34Right time, right place. That's why things like that usually happens. Was it your idea? Was it was it someone in the companies? The character? Well, it was really a coincidence because they had they had brought me in for an interview and they were looking for manager for the undertaker at the time. We're talking about December of 1990. 20 years ago, that's crazy. Yeah, December of 1990 that brought me up for an interview. And I didn't know they were looking for a manager for the undertaker and they didn't know that I was a real politician. And it was kind of just a myth to me. What's it like 20 years later? I mean, you're pretty much set now, right? Like you are Paul Bearer. Yeah, I'm a lot of thanks. I'm sure. But I mean, have you have you wanted to switch something up? Have you thought about maybe being
2:23Percy Pringle or something else or is it now it's called air forever? No, like down south, where you know, I'm from Mobile, Alabama, right? You know, I'm most people call me Percy. I mean, I'm known as Percy because I was Percy for so many years and and I still do some independent wrestling shows, you know, as Percy and right. It just depends, you know, how old you are. If you never, you know, most people call in Percy. Okay. You mentioned you mentioned Mobile. I'm just wondering how are things down there with the oil spill? Have you are things cleaning themselves up? It's yeah, on the surface. Yes. But underneath, no, right? They're they're finding oil, you know, under the sand, feet, the underneath the sand and all the bottom of the golf,
3:10it's just laying there. We were just really blessed so we didn't get a hurricane or anything, you know, and then up our the golf this year that started to ever stir it up. Right. But it's there, it's there, but you just can't see it as much as you could a few months ago. Fair enough. Back to wrestling and and and being a manager and I was reading a couple of the stories on your website. You know, we think of a wrestling manager goes down the aisle, you know, does does all the stuff ringside, but I didn't know there was more to it on the road as well. Well, it just depends what what, you know, what kind of manager you are. A lot of managers are just managers, you know, trying to think of their words to say it just don't television. Well, exactly. And some of the
3:55old school managers, you know, such as myself, we used to handle, you know, a lot of our guys is, you know, travel plans and hotels and get them where they need to be and all that stuff. But that's 20 years ago, you know, things have certainly changed. How so how they change the whole business is changed. I mean, I'm from the old school era, you know, I started in the business back 1974. And back then we didn't have cable television. You didn't have the internet. And there, you know, we have a lot of things that you have today and it's just changed the whole place of the business. I guess, I guess that's true. Our interview would be would be very different than then, then, you know, 30 years ago. You're not kidding. I wouldn't have told you probably 70% of the things I've already told you if we'd have talked 20 years ago. Right. And is that a
4:44good thing or a bad thing? A little boat, you know, you know, we go forward, life moves on. You know, the whole world changed. You know, years ago, when we'd be world on the road, all we had was a mouse. Now we have GPSs, headphones, and just in the six years that I've been gone, things have changed so much along those lines. Six years ago, when I was on the road, we just, I never had a GPS. When I first started here, all those, the only technical thing we had was a pager. And if you got paid, you had to find a pay phone to make a call, you know. So things that things have changed. You know, a lot of people think of the little things that you like that. I want to, we do a couple of games on the show. I want to, I want to play both of them with you if you're cool with that. One of them is just is just giving you a couple of names here and
5:31just getting a few thoughts. Okay. Well, we'll start with Fred Hart, because you saw him yesterday. I love Brett to death. I got to spend some time with him yesterday in Calgary. And the first time that we were close for a lot of years, you know, on the road early on. And I haven't seen Brett in a long, long time. And it was just like a family reunion for me. And it was just something really special. It really was a good scene. He's doing, he's doing really well. Rick Roode. Rick Roode was a fantastic individual, a person in and out of the rain. And while I first started with him in 1985, it's Florida. And as a matter of fact, he is the one that was responsible for
6:16getting me into the WWF. Is it hard for you to say WWE? It's hard for me to say it's okay. Yeah, I'm old school. I still fall off still tripping say WWF sometimes. But it was a bit of the no days and Rick was here then. And he was kind of responsible to give me my first interview here. Crazy. Stone Cold. I heard you go back with him as well. Yeah. He would. I was with the Vineric in Dallas from 1985 through like 1990s. I started up here and Steve went to a wrestling school there at the Sportar Tournament Dallas. And I was helping teach interviews and stuff like that. And he was one of the students in our class. And I ended up being his manager. Really? Yeah, I managed him for a while. And a lot of guys, I have a history with a lot of guys.
7:02Like the ultimate warriors matter of fact, I managed him and Dallas years ago. And was he that character then too? Or was that something that started? He called the Dingo Warrior then. Oh, okay. And then I I managed the Undertaker and his very first match in the business, as the Sportar Tournament Dallas. Of course he was the Undertaker in those days. This was 1987. So I go back to 1987 with the Undertaker. I'm old. I'm in a man alone. I got an underworlder. And you I hope not. That's that's kind of gross. You know, we wash them regularly. Yeah, fair enough. Mick Foley. Another one from the world class. He started in Dallas when I was there and as cactus Jack. And it's just you're just so many guys that would go back with the years.
7:55All right. Yeah. The other thing is something called five questions, five quick questions, quick answers. Okay. Okay. Undertaker versus Undertaker. Smart or stupid? I don't know. That was a long time ago. Well, I guess at the time it was smart. Time size 2020, you know, but at the time I it was good. I thought it was good. Cool. Lennener McCartney. I'm a country fan. Give me some George Jones and Merle Haggard and Conway Twitty. How about this? How about this? Hank Williams or Johnny Cash? Rose. Hank Williams or Johnny Cash? Gosh, I love both of them. Jamie Johnson. Jamie Johnson. All right. Scariest moment in the wrestling business. Scariest moments
8:44in the wrestling business when I saw Gold Dutch lettuce makeup on. Proudest moment in the wrestling business. When I wore a wig and robe. And one word called error. Me.
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