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0:00doesn't like an alien just not like any well it seems you guys kind of don't either what happened to toronto on saturday in our fault no i don't know uh yeah that was uh that was a bum out we booked the show um started selling tickets and then for some reason not all the bands but for some reason in our contract the promoter for the prousa fest and montreal had a radius clause that said since we are one of the headliners of prousa fest we can't play toronto that's crazy what is which is really crazy because it's like six hours away yeah and completely separate market but you know we were you know getting paid as a headliner at the festival and now it's in the
0:46contract so we had to cancel the toronto show the canada it sure was amazing but you know it's it's frustrating playing you know having a canadian tour in toronto not being on it because of the but yeah we got we kind of got screwed like you know we we were bummed out because that's the last thing we want to do is book a show and then just straight up cancel it you know yeah well i'm kind of glad we're doing this interview too so that way you you know it'll clear it up a little bit too and let people know what happened in case they don't know and what not so yeah i mean it's it's partially our our um booking agents fault too and he felt bad and because he did not read that part of the agreement well seems
1:32ridiculous why would a contract in montreal effect of toronto show like radius closet 100 kilometers 200 maybe usually but yeah and that's kind of like what happened that's kind of like what happened is he you know he didn't think i would be there and then the motor called after he saw our show on sale it's like yeah not working you know paid by the way so right well i assume you guys will be back eventually with the next record or what have you because i mean this is the second part of the sticks and stones tour right yep so yeah i'm trying to get it um if there's time we got a tour going out um like the next tour going out we're trying i'm trying to make it up by having our agent book is there even if it's like even if it doesn't make sense you know what i mean like if we
2:18got a glider our way to get up there to play it you know bring one of your other bands and then just drag the guys out for the one show right that'll work so let's talk about the sticks and stones tour though so whose idea was it to i mean the record's 10 years old now whose idea or i guess 11 years old now um but whose idea was it to to do this tour out of all the things i mean you could have toured the Ramonzi P could have toured the like an acoustic thing to match the christmas EP well yeah i mean well well the whole thing uh you know a long time ago we did the self-titled 10 university of our self-titled tour um and that was such a success and fans sticks and stones right and then already people people are like you're gonna do catalysts right you know so it just works out where because we're
3:06kind of in between records um but we have that die hard fan base who love our new albums but then they also could care less if we had a record or not they just want to hear us play you know so it's like we we did this tour you know before the new year and we kind of did it almost our biggest record so you would play like these huge rooms but what we did we wanted to make it more of an event so we played smaller rooms than we normally played and they were selling out in the first like three hours the first two three days and stuff like that fight all these all the all these fans started treating us you know like you didn't play here you didn't play here why not yeah at all why not
3:54whatever so we got an offer to do some shows in Canada so we said hey and the Canada thing was about the Constones like hey we would like them to do that here and so we decided to tag in all the cities that we missed most of the cities that we missed the first time around and make it up to them so it's been going amazing and the crazy thing is is the crowd reaction the first the first three shows literally the kids are singing so loud I could not hear my guitar on stage hurry you know it's awesome that is a good problem to have I think that's nice yeah yeah I mean I don't really I kind of went at play just sort of zone out anyway I'm not really listening to anything it's pretty much a adrenaline so oh that's not what's going on so you're in a zone like like are you
4:40okay so when you're in this zone are you trying to because it's all muscle memory and playing playing the guitar is it all matching the parts because you know them so well are you in a zone where you're kind of jamming out and you don't you get off stage and the guys are like what the fuck was that what were you playing yeah I don't it's a few of these songs you've been playing them for so long it's like you know they're etched you know in my brain I don't need to really yeah I mean I might go with any show though like a lot of people are very particular about how they want their sound or or just like in general like in bands and things like that but for me I don't at the point when the show starts I'm having you know so much fun I really can't really hear yeah did these
5:25small rooms inspire the live records I heard you guys recorded that in a like a chain reaction is that where it was yeah we did the chain reaction which is you know our I guess it's like the West Coast CBGB you can say yeah you know I mean I hate this you know obviously it's not CBGB has been around for years and years and years but you know chain reaction is the place where everyone we near a young band you want to play that place because it's like it's in this part of Southern California where there's always kids that come out and they're the kind of kids that just go crazy so yeah we decided we've never had a live record you know it's been 15 years and it's been a long time and you know radio surgery and we weren't in the place to write but I did have some some songs
6:17that I was really into on the six and stones at sound check I was just start writing some riffs and I really liked them decided to you know make this live record with three new songs on it which are being mixed now so it's going to be cool like bands I feel like we were fans of music you know so when you hear about a band releasing live record it sounds like a bullshit record well I already have all those songs you know but there are some really good live records out there and you know for instance even the Mark Tom and Travis show from Blink you know still is the only Blink record I'll listen to now like I love all their
7:04records but if I want to put on a Blink record I listen to that because the songs are a little bit faster a little bit more aggressive the banter in between pretty funny and it's like all my favorite songs from the albums on one without it being just you know a you know a greatest hit it's just it's cool it's different and that's one of the records that I think did that there's bands that actually take pride in a live record and that's what we wanted to do is we wanted to make it you know different this new life to some songs that go over really well live that aren't singles you know if that makes sense so there's some songs that kids who don't go to our show this might not listen to
7:49that might be later on the record but live they're insane you know so like we redid a lot of the parts and some songs where there's stops and stuff where you can hear the crowd sing along we left the biggest stuff and it's it's mixed really well and it's really cool it's like it really like captures our live show and also I feel you know brings new life to some of our older songs that makes sense like I feel like there's a couple songs that I feel like fans might not love on the record that they'll now like in its live it does it certainly makes sense but that's that's interesting that you would you would hear that are those songs that you've heard like backlash from from people you know when you put out a record being like you know met and I don't think those tunes as much as the other one no I just means I just
8:38mean single lines you know I just mean like yeah yeah yeah you know there's kind of music there's different layers or different layers you know different kind of fans where like you know there's a fan who might really really loves to can stones and really love self-titled and like this it might like the singles from countless but don't know the deep album tracks and we'll hear this because they like the six and songs on it and be like what song is that oh it actually does that make sense like yeah absolutely there's just different levels of fans you know and there's a stand to know everything and then those stands at no the singles but the kids that buy for the singles well now I think like the live versions of these other songs are really in that I don't know maybe make them even dive deeper in order to get along
9:25I like how you keep saying kids it's making it's making me think that I mean we're the same age but it's making me think now that that the people that come to the newfound glory shows are still you know 18 19 years old is that is that the case where there are people you know I mean I still go to yeah I mean I say I say kids because I'm a kid you know okay okay I think it's like like it could be we could be at a frickin billy draw concert and I'd be like yeah the kids there were really cool you know what I mean like yeah you know I just use that that's just my I got you so the audience has grown with you though it's it's a range of ages well if you're at a punk rock concert you're still a kid right you know I like that good that makes me feel younger thank you I like that yeah I mean come on descendants I don't want to grow up well we're you know we're men's we're man-child
10:11um but uh yeah I mean I love our fans because that's that's a cool thing about it at this point is there's a lot of young kids you know that fight to get to the front of the barricade um and there's like the older kids that are in the middle pitting and going crazy and core kids there's punk and we're all across the board and it's flattering that it's like that because we're lucky it's not it's not like that for bands that have been around for 15 years all the time you know but you know we are getting to the point where like we're getting kids that are fans now you got me all I know don't worry about it makes sense but we're getting kids we're getting kids at the show they're like you know my older brother gave me your CD and he's here
11:00right now you know that they were like crossing the generations of family it was was that a bit of influence behind making the Ramonthus maybe to reach out to a new generation for them to hear it or was it just stuff like you grew up with it you had some studio time there are moments I've always liked the Ramon that's sort of like you know uh interesting because like I've always liked the Ramones put this on the back of the record um who bought the record on record so they could could read why why it happened because we just want to release up the cover record but um that was two years ago there was that the Ambruzal festival in New Jersey and they did a night night they do this thing called the hoodwink
11:52they do the Thursday and Friday it's like the night before Bamboozal starts and what they do is they get some of the big to do cover songs like a pre-party since everybody's in town so they came to us and asked us if we wanted to do Ramones covers say Marki Ramone on drums 15 Ramone songs and I think when diving deep into that and learning the songs is like it's crazy to see how you know like the right songs they would throw this pop
12:38element in where they're inspired by like you know you can tell like 50s doop and you know and then later on like the beach boys but then like with punk rock it was just it was really really cool so in doing that we played the show with Marki and it was not only did we play the show at Marki but we were in New York City practicing with him it was just such an experience it was such an experience and we knew all the songs coming and you know record you know there's like the Ramones song rock and roll radio and he's like you know um you mean change or we need it fast before rock's just part of the past you know and it's such a funny thing because he literally predicted that you know there's not as many there's like United States it's all hip hop pop music
13:27or you know whatever the new format it's crazy so in same thing with record buying people you know a lot of young kids don't know what it's like to go out and buy a rock record they go out and you know they download the new pop single or whatever so just with the lyric for that song playing with Marki or again records you know it just seem like a cool thing to do you know it just seem like you're off it so that's why there's a there's like multi-meaning to that record yeah yeah you're going deep i mean i don't want to take too much of your time but i was just thinking when you're talking about the rock stuff i had haley on the show i do a video show too and when when paramore was up here we go we had them on and they've done a really good job at keeping the rock band in the pop music
14:13sphere yes i just i don't really have a question with that i just i just find an interesting you were talking about i was like oh yeah they kind of they made they're like one of the few bands that have made that work somehow yeah for sure i mean they're a rock band and you know they're that is why they are still a band where because another band's went you know paramore might have some pop songs here you know here and there you know lyrics that are real that are heartfelt music that is written from the heart not written by some producer you know and they're real rock band you know and that you know they have pop songs but it's like still like that we just talked about listening to roman's record oh yeah no i just mean that they're working in that like pop radio will
15:01play them like that they're one of two bands that gets played in that genre for sure which i think is cool and you were just there in new york just a segue into this robin william's story because is this true or do you just tweet something i saw robin william's in a comic book store it wasn't just a hairy man randomly in there yeah like a haly was uh busy doing like question stuff during the day um because you know the record came out and it was like the first show back in New York or whatever you know New York there's some key stores that i always go to and you know they have the they have the forbidden planet it's forbidden planet comic story it wasn't too far from me so i just walked i walked i did like a 20 minute walk and went to forbidden planet and i was just looking for a comic book uh specific trade and
15:51looking at their like nerdy board games that they have and um rather Williams just i looked to my left and robin william's is kind of walking by looking at the shelf i'm looking at and i was like i was like hey man i was like thank you uh for all you do for me you know because you know i i told someone i said i said like well why just say that and i was like well you know think about it like this guy's life is devoted to entertaining like anything like his job is to get better at entertaining us you know what i mean like his movies aren't for himself but for us so i was like you know i told him like thanks for all you do for me man no problem big guy would ever need you know because i'm a giant next to him and he uh you like patted me on the back and kept looking and then when it came time to
16:40check out i was buying my booking agent this this trade uh this book called incognito that's really that's a really awesome blue baker book and um and i was in line buying that robin Williams was infarining me and there wasn't a line and just like robin Williams buying kicks and trays and i grabbed them off and and then the checkout girl and then there was me and if you know people that were comic stories they love talking about comics so i'm in line holding the incognito book and the ladies like hey have you read that i was like yeah i'm buying it for a friend of mine at the gift if he hasn't read it who Williams like what is it you know and then me robin Williams and this lady are just talking about
17:27this comic book incognito and then he went back and he bought it he grabbed that one and then uh he bought some my comic book shirt off the wall and it wasn't like an iron man shirt it was like some deep comic painting it was like something i didn't even know what it was it was like it was like legit like he's a true fan and i was cool we talked to him and that's it he left by himself it was awesome that's it's cool that uh that i mean you i'm sure you get approached too from time to time right from from fans just thank you and whatnot so it's cool that it hasn't uh i guess blemished you from going up and doing that to other people i'm glad you've done that because now i won't feel as stupid doing it you know you know i am here's the thing i am i'm a i'm a fan never he wanted to be a man he's reality shows that's great
18:20real i mean yeah not so much reality reality but more like those like you know the pawn star type shows looks like the content he wanted me he was thinking i mean he was joking we never really did it but i'm such a fan of stuff he wanted to do a show about me like being a fan and because like i go to like when i go to a UFC event i'll run down to the floor if i see it by the right leg and be like hey let me get a picture you know like i have no problem with acknowledging someone's you know you know what i mean so is it are people are you more likely to to be always friendly with people to come up to you then
19:07oh yeah all the time yeah because you get it that's cool yeah yeah all the time i'm i'm going and also with Haley like Haley's cool with people too it's but because that i know different levels like i wanted to get a picture with robin william so bad you know what i mean i saw him he was dressed like in just everyday clothes he had some hat on dude this guy so i knew doing what i do as bad as i wanted to have a picture with peter pan and f***ing mrs. doubtfire i was like i was like i can't you know so i just talked to him because he's a normal dude but i can still acknowledge what what he you know what he does same thing on the flight over i saw Bill
19:53kakston and i ran out the plane he was on my flight to the east coast and i saw the kakston like do weird science alien um terminator twister titanic you name it but he has this movie he has this amazing movie called frailty that he directed and started it didn't really get tons of love but it's insane you should see it yeah like i like movies it's one of those like six cents endings really like wow it's like crazy but i'm like hey man i just let you know that frailty was like one of my favorite movies it's amazing and he's like no where he's like thank you you know he's like you got to see mud if you have him keep mud you got to see it he's like it's with matthew kana hane and it's great oh that that's that's a new one right yeah brand new oh anyway so yeah i'm definitely a fan and you just know
20:49cool anyway yeah it's not where i expected the conversation to go i thought we talk a little more about songwriting but that's fine that's interesting i like it that's it's gonna be fun to print um so i gotta talk i i had time so you do have time okay cool so because what i was you know reading that reading the wikipedia page because that's what we do nowadays um seeing that you're the like you're the only composer credited on sticks and stones is that true or is that is that just a wiki kind of whatever well way our band works is i i write all the music um i will come like full-on demo drums and everything yeah or the or like computer
21:36or or drum or drum or drum ideas or whatever it is you know like i'll just have the song written and we'll put it together um in a practice space um and then this is we'll give Steve the song it's our player and what happens is is when i write a song when i write a song i have an idea for a melody in my head however choose from so i'll give Steve um i'll give Steve the you know he'll get he'll get the music he'll go and write i course ideas and lyric ideas we then get together
22:25if we like mine more we'll use mine and he'll work off mine more than half we use all of his verses and things like that like because he has a great way um he writes great lyrics in my opinion so and then as far as the melody goes we work together on i'm piecing together the best melodies but i would say Steve is like she's wrote written like 70 percent of our lyrics 80 percent of our lyrics wow so is there ever times where Jordan comes to Steve or you and just says i can't sing these words like does that happen if he's not writing his own yeah it's we're like we all go through it you know and we're all
23:11each other's biggest critic so you know like we all sort of you know pick apart what we do i mean me and Steve will faddle on a song you know well like the ignore dude like i'll be like you're you're versus cool but you're i hate your chorus and it will be like oh this part sucks you know and we'll battle to to get it to the right point you know um and Jordan too Jordan gives his opinion and and everything but you know like just like when the inspiration's coming regardless of where it's coming from as long as it's from your band it shouldn't matter you know i just that's interesting yeah yeah absolutely i agree with you i just it's interesting when a when a singer doesn't is able to still put the emotion in because i mean i would have thought
23:57before doing this interview that he would have written the lyrics because i know the songs and i feel like those are his emotions because you connect with the singer when they're saying certain words but now now i'm going to relisten everything and rethink it all and be like well interesting well you know that yeah i mean it's it's weird it's like there's different things like Sonny um is a song Jordan really wanted to put together about um fiction stone son is a song that you really wanted to put together about uh his grandfather that died when we were making the record he was really close with he was making his nickname was Sonny we did Sonny so Steve wrote that it's more Jordan's song you know i mean even though he bares together and then there's like you know um my friends over you
24:47the time that i wrote most of the lyrics of about South Florida that i was breaking up with when moving to make this it's really funny because it says my finger over you really it's my band over you um but if that was where we kind of or who's gonna write that in a song you know it's actually my band but then i had my arm my friend but uh you know that was that sort of sarcastic spin on it you know and that's why it's that with that song you know the chorus is like a serious emotion and it gets to that lyric and it is like a sort of tongue in cheek you know um and yeah that was about leaving our hometown
25:34and me telling us go like look i can't i got i got things to do and i can't you already so that broke my heart at one point and i can't really make this work i had a being this band in it um and then same thing like Steve wrote this Steve wrote um one of my favorite songs is Steve wrote poems is uh forget my name because i love that uh you know we all were going through that point where my friends in south Florida about forget my name or not about forget my name but what forget my name being like dude i don't want to move to west coast my whole band wants to move i just i love it here i don't know and they're like no man you gotta like
26:20try it you gotta like go for it you know um and that that was when we all were living with our parents in California to make some stones so that was like our growing up transition like our leaving home so the song on the album forget my name to me is one of my favorites because it's it's pretty honest about what what was happening at that time that's interesting i didn't i didn't realize that was the uh the culmination of the cross country travel that's interesting yeah i mean yeah is the record sorry go ahead right you you know well i was i was going to talk about the just the setlist for that like are you playing the record solid in a set and then moving to like i was switching topics almost i apologize oh it's okay but yeah we play it
27:05to start to finish though we like we play my friends every second which is really cool because usually we always have to close with it and now it's awesome because it's it kind of gave us i guess a little bit more confidence because i feel like at times we're so used to closing with it we feel like that's what we have to close with and then this tour you know we played it second and you see how little kids care that it's second you know like they love it but it's like we're able to end with you know the play arm of popular song set oh so that's why it was okay because it is the big hit interesting i'd like to rest a kill yeah that makes yeah second on the album um and you know it's our biggest party song and kids
27:50love that you know that's like the lyric everyone is catching on and we've stopped so so is the set only like half an hour no you must be playing a second set of like other stuff too yeah we play the album and then um we get a little drink and then we come back up and play like nine more songs that's cool and it kind of like a compilation of of everything over the years kind of thing whatever you guys feel like playing yeah yeah cool all right so i'm gonna let you go we do something called five questions five quick questions one-word answers okay road or studio like the hardest question right there so naylee said that's funny it changes
28:42today right now in my life yeah studio cool lennener mccartney mccartney when you hear a song what usually hits you first lyrics melody or rhythm melody song you've written you're most proud of and it's a what's eating Gilbert song solo song cool and in one word newfound glory nice i'm glad we got a little what's eating Gilbert plug in there i was i was hoping it would come up somehow
29:28just a little something toss in there right cool man thank you so much i really appreciate it sorry we couldn't get this done uh i guess on saturday and uh and next time your internal come by say hi all right man thank you appreciate it yeah my pleasure i'll tweet you guys the link when it's up all right take care cool thanks John thank you interesting he said he was in
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