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Episode #26 · Howie DayMarch 2004 · 00:42:25
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0:00Are you into music? Sure man. Yeah, I dig music. Oh yeah, I dig music. No, I mean really into music. Into music so bad you tell your significant other to be quiet when you hear a new song on the radio. Into music so bad you'll buy a CD because one of the tracks has a killer 12 second guitar solo on it. Into music so bad that at a concert you hit the Mosh Pit by two of the Dells and get down security and talk to the fans! Only to be thrown out. CJIQ's Matt Schichter can help. Every Thursday at 7 and Friday at 11, Matt has your backstage pass. I remember the band Three Door Varies. That's a lot of me so great. I think it's Jordan Stromelopla so much music is co-hosting. You're the first to back stage pass on Matt Schichter and I'm here with Hoxley Workman.
0:45Alright, I'm here with Sam Robert and I was three number one songs in Canada. Lucid features on the band Simple Plan. You're not here with the truth, I guess you're the best. Matt Schichter gives your very own backstage pass. Thursday at 7 and Friday at 11 on 88.3 CJIQ. Howie Day! Howie Day! Could a stick or a full band or a Zio?
2:13No, a acoustic. Oh, very nice. With the Lou Pedals. We'll talk about that in a few other things just a few minutes. I want to start the show off the song that I first heard you out goes. Alright. It's a wicked tune. What's it about? It's wicked depressing. It's kind of a breakup song, I guess. It's pretty self-explanatory. Now that you know it's a breakup song when you're listening to it, you'll be able to figure it out. Lately I've been thinking Lately I've been dreaming I'm so resistant to this type of shine I was alone for my nice vacation.
7:51You know, for being 15, pretty inspiring. Like I said, especially for a place where there is no music. I mean, the best we ever got was like nothing. Nothing ever came up to that work. So yeah, it was cool. What was he playing like then? Crash, though. It was, yeah, I guess Crash it just came out and it was that Dave and Tim show. Oh, you play acoustic you think? Well, I was already playing. I think maybe push things along a little bit. Kind of maybe, oh, that'd be a really cool job. I don't think I'd have really considered playing music as a... And you decided to go with Lou Pedals which you were talking about.
8:37It's through long delays. You're recording any increment of time, you know, between like one measure or four measures or eight measures. Sort of the initial track and then as soon as you end recording it goes back to the point in which you started recording. And you can layer a pretty much infinite amount of their width. So it kind of creates like a sort of live multi-track. What made you think I'm starting to do that? Or do you have the idea? I actually got the idea from an artist that I opened for named Joseph Arthur. He's on the show a couple weeks ago. Yeah. And yeah, and I opened for him and see a show and it was just spontaneously like a guitar
9:35store. It's cool now when you do show your full band, do you ever stop and just do a couple of songs and just see acoustic? Yeah, yeah, we tinkered around with that a little bit. It's tough when you're doing a show with a band to take the band off the stage because it screws with sort of the flow and we started doing it sort of a no, a song or two solo and then the band would come off. I mean, come on. I'll have to go to the gym morning after the first time. All right. Live. Live. Yeah, live. It's probably, I guess, the oldest. Yeah.
10:53Cause it's... It was much now.
14:16It was just me, I was touring a lot. You know, we did a lot of... We did some good gigs, but we did a lot of really bad ones too. And it was just, it got to the point where there were gigs that there might have been three people kind of sort of half paying attention while studying. And that opened up a good hour and a half window to just kind of experiment and come up with ideas for new material. Thanks for the author record. Yeah, I mean, the song After You, which isn't on any records, but it's a song that I play a lot live, was that pretty much came up with the idea for the loop at Soundcheck
15:05and then during the show, Tires on over at school, all at once. So it was... And it's funny if you listen to the first recording of it ever and I swear, none of it was written ahead of time. It's pretty spot on to what it is now. That's pretty now. So it was kind of all written. So it's from an indie to a major label? Yeah. What's the difference? What do you notice this difference between two sides of one? Of course. There's a lot more horses pulling the wagon nowadays, you know.
15:51It was very do-it-yourself and even all that time it was just... Then I had a manager when I turned 18 and we worked together for about three years and it was the same thing. It was kind of me and him making all the decisions. And then so yeah, so now it's like now I have a publicist and a video person and a con.
16:47So it's just a lot more people kind of working on my thing. No. It's a weird job because I think it's one of the only businesses in the world where I'm sort of the president of the company but I'm also the product. It'd be like a can of Coca-Cola. Do you know what's going on from day to day for yourself or does everyone make your schedule? Just kind of go with the flow. Well that's always to be argued about and you know, because there always are those things that go that I never really hear about until we do them. But yeah, I mean for the most part, you know, most stuff that I want to go through me.
17:40Cool. Plano Latune, collide off of your record. Yeah, one of my favorites. Yeah, that's what everyone says every time I play on the radio and we'll talk about how much I love the song. Cool. So that's what it's about. Collide, well it's not quite as depressing as ghosts I suppose. It's a love song deep down but it's a little bit, it's coming to a realization that you know, you don't have to be pessimistic about a relationship. You don't have, you know, even though it's just a realization that no relationship ever goes perfect. Sort of trying to talk the other part. The donuts breaking are like shining through your barely waking and tangled up in you.
18:27In your flow I follow your code. I will fade. Light up a shumb How shine of mine? I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired.
19:26I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired.
20:19I'm tired. I'm tired.
22:47You're tired. I've never been done it. I'm guilty. Yeah, I don't think I will practice that you're downloading everybody's record never buying a record. I think tel would tear down the Emer expected industry. But it seemed to be really recently sort of turning around and becoming, as far as like They started making a lot of money off people downloading music for the first time, really. It's starting to get to be, it's not as big as Napster yet, but it's getting there. You know, like, it's whatever.
23:33So, you know, I think that's a good thing. I think it's an amazing technology that's made a turn for the better. I think it helps you out, it's a very good career. Well, for me, it was interesting because I was sort of up and coming at the perfect moment when the Napster thing. So, I think it helped me out a lot because a lot of my fan bases sort of college aged kind of thing. And they were most of the people that were downloading entire albums. And, yeah, a song from every artist ever. So, it really spread word to mouth-wise because you can always tell a friend, you know, like, how he days really good and you should get his record, but they won't. But if they're sitting there, you know, on the computer late at night after a bunch of studying,
24:20and it's like just thinking, trying to think of anything to download, like, you know, oh, that my friend said how he days, and so they'll download one song or two, and then if they dig it, then, you know, I think that's more likely than someone actually going to the record store and buying a record for $17 that they haven't ever even heard of. Okay, cost $17. Well, I was being, yeah, I was exaggerating for the sake of my argument. I was just thinking, well, if you have the choice to make a CD price for your CD, what do you think is a reasonably price? I think $18 is a lot to pay for a CD personally, but that's the way it works, and I don't know enough about the way it works to really answer that question because then somebody from Epic will hear me do this interview and be mad at me, like, well, don't you even know what it has to go through. So, I don't want to get myself in trouble, but, you know, I don't know.
25:08I always think about that. Video games are even worse. Video games are Xbox, you know, like, $70, you know. But that's the same thing. It's a piece of plastic. It's a CD. You know, they probably cost a dollar to make in a factory, and now you're paying $70 for it. So, it seems kind of crazy, but I guess the intellectual content is more important in video games than in music CDs. It's like, it's like video games are the most masterful artwork of our time, and then right underneath that is DVDs, and then right underneath that's music. So, like, I can feel good that the Grand Theft Auto is more priceless intellectual property than any of my records, or all of them combined for that matter. Can you play a lot of video games on the house? God damn it, I love video games. Yeah, we played, the band sort of, when we did the band tour, we got really obsessed with Tiger Woods Golf.
25:58And they have a feature that you can create your own, like, you can create a guy that looks exactly like you. Right down to the facial features and everything, you can control the jawline tweaking our characters. What exactly did we felt pride for our on screen heroes? That's cool. I want to play Brace Yourself. I love that tune, dude. Alright. Let me decide to kick the record off of it. I don't know, I had a good mid tempo vibe. I thought even when the record was completed, I thought it was going to be a single contender. So, I guess, Brace Yourself is the single that wasn't. That's my opinion. I like sushi.
27:03Luckily, yes, but even if you don't like it, that's where the ring goes.
31:00They go, they go, eat it, eat the sushi. You have a great vlog, yeah. Yeah, he smokes a lot of hand-rolled cigarettes. But he's a great guy, and we had a lot of fun making the record. And he actually used to be, or it still is, really. The bass player for, sort of, an 80s kind of influential punk band called Killing Joke. Alright. Yeah, you should check it out. Actually, the new album's really cool. Like, I'm not into that much music that goes, what made you record me, okay? I'll go over there.
31:46Well, he just got done doing a record in San Francisco, and I just wanted to spend some time at home. So, he sort of ran up on me like, hey, would you mind, you know, doing the record in London? I just kind of said, okay. Yeah, that sounds like a cool experience. Even if the album never sells any more than 17 or 18 copies, I can at least tell my grandkids someday that I had a record deal with Sony and I went to London and recorded my record. That's pretty cool. Yeah. That's my first grandfather. Was it amazing? Those were my kids that I'll have when I marry a girl in London and they have half accents. She says, you rerecorded for the record. She says, has a, seems to have supernatural quality about it.
32:32It's remained one of the sort of live favorites for a really long time. It was one of the first songs that I wrote, even for Australia, and the version that was on Australia was a, it wasn't really intended. I think there's a certain amount of intensity, you know, a slightly more, I like them a little bit. I like them a little bit.
33:20Let's play the first version. Okay. Yeah, the acoustic version because we're kind of going back and forth from around here, so we'll keep it interesting. Plus, I own Australia, so I'd rather have listeners buy that. Alright, how we day? She says, money grubbing. I laugh at that, they're just gonna say what a mess. I'll be the one. Sweet as the sight of a room. The window opened by candlelight. You know, when's her on the shore? She'll just stretch you, or, on the floor.
34:07Still feel so warm. Do they? That's why I wonder why you had to tell me. What's going on in the head? What's wrong? Come around to an other time when you don't have to run. Yeah, when she says, she says, money else. I hope no. Sweet as the queen. Sound you'll never hear her.
34:52She says, she wants a love. I hope you know. Sweet as the queen. Sound and lets you down. I hope you know her. It doesn't mean you're such right now.
35:42It's so funny that you're so funny when your man's man would tell me to go and... It's the backstage pass.
37:38We do think every week, we call five questions. I think you've written your most proud of it. If you could change any law, what would it be? Thanks a lot. Yeah, appreciate it.
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