Wintersleep

Part 1

0:03Alright, Portland, Oregon with the East Coast, we have switched coasts altogether. We switched countries as well. Yeah, yeah. And Paul from Winter's, thanks so much for doing this. Thanks for having me. So we got new record, new inhibitors out. Yeah, yeah, new inheritors. Inheritors, what am I saying? Good Lord, it's been a very long day. Yeah, yeah, it's just a release in the US on June 1st. So we're just supporting that. It's going on so far? Yeah, definitely, yeah. We're doing it towards, well, you already interviewed Matt earlier, yeah, that's good. A lot of driving. You had a lot of drives for sure. Yeah. Talking about the new record, what are you writing about? I heard it was written on the road. I guess you guys never really took a break. Yeah, I feel like it's record. Yeah, I guess it was kind of written sort of while we were touring, but also like in the,

0:48I mean, we had a little bit of time off. So we worked on kind of ideas while we were touring and then kind of finished them whenever we got back to where we were living in Montreal. Oh, so you moved away from the East Coast? Yeah, yeah, we all moved. We all moved to Montreal a couple of years ago. So we've been in Montreal for a year, well, almost two years. Do you speak French? Can you do it? No, I can't. No, because I would if I live there are more, but we're kind of, we're touring so much. It's more like a place that we pay rent at. Yeah, it's supposed to live. Just drop money. Yeah, basically. I was wondering, I saw Jason Lasik's name on there, and I was like, yeah, I wonder what he did, but it didn't make sense. If you're in Montreal, it was probably at the studio or something. Yeah, we worked at Medusa Fettas Studio. So he assisted Tony, who was a during,

1:34well, it was kind of like a pre-production. So one of the songs that we did pre-production on, one of the songs, actually ended up making it on the record. So that's why he's, yeah. What are you writing about on the record? There's a lot of stuff on the road, because I know that second record is usually the road record for me. Well, no, I don't know. I don't really. I don't know. I'm on your second record, though, but it's a second like, huge record record, right? Second record that we kind of like put a lot of time and stuff into and just, I don't know, yeah, I guess, such a second real production or whatever. Yeah, I don't know. I don't really know. I say, not really song about the road or anything like that. I don't think it's kind of strange to do that. But I don't know. I guess it's a little on a different thing. It's different things that are inspiring at the time.

2:25Yeah, do you write as a group, or do you just write like kind of on a bad luck, or I guess the man? It's, well, I mean, the lyrics are, I write the lyrics, and as a group, we make all the music. So it's a group effort. And yeah, so we kind of do that together. And yeah, lyrics in the van, I guess. Fair enough. Do the guys pitch in? Do you ever throw stuff out? Or are you one of those people that's kind of a little more reserved about the writing? I wouldn't be necessarily. I mean, I don't know. No one has had any huge problems with the lyrical. I think I'm the person that has the most bones to pick up a lyrics anyway. But I mean, obviously, if there's a line that becomes a line or bad, then I mean, you work that out.

3:12Sometimes I'll ask if there's a few options for lyrics that would work, that kind of have the same meaning. You kind of ask everybody what the best line would be. Right. Specific songs. So yeah, it's helpful in that way. Yeah, there's the, I don't want to downgrade. There's the winter sleep sound. Then you had a song like, wait, it goes. It was like a complete left turn. Yeah. Are there a couple of those on this record, too? I don't know. I don't think we really have, I guess, I get you right. I guess there is kind of a general sound. But we don't really think of it. I don't know. I think there is. There ends up being a sound that we have. But it's not something that's necessarily something that we're clinging to or something that we're really trying to stick with. I think it's more something. Well, it's going to be working anyway. It's going to be working anyway. So I'll just go with it, right? Yeah. But I think we like kind of, we like

3:57lots of different bands and lots of different types of music. And so if there's a song that kind of maybe doesn't necessarily fit into any category, it's not, as long as it's a good song, and we can write good parts to it and make it kind of fit as the rest of the record lyrically and thematically or whatever. And it seems like it's kind of good to have different departures as opposed to the same. I mean, I don't know. It's kind of over the course of 15 minutes, the same sort of sounding song would be kind of annoying to us. People seem to dig them in a show, though. Oh, yeah. People are especially the East Coasters that are scattered throughout the country. Yeah. I guess shugging their beakers and waving around and loving every second of it. Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, it's good. I don't know. We like to switch it up anyway. For sure. Kind of that's kind of part of our sort of, I don't know,

4:45part of our value, some aesthetic thing. Well, maybe a lot of those songs ended up on the side project, too. That's a more folkier kind of thing. Oh, the post-ed-over. Yeah, that was. Yeah, that was kind of a different thing altogether. It was sort of my brother and I was working on a different sort of means, a different sort of way to, a different sort of way to, right? You think I guess? Is it something that's going to continue, or do you think it was just like, oh, let's try this and have fun and see where it goes? Kind of like. Yeah, I think it was more just like that. It wasn't really, it was kind of just, it kind of just happened. It was just a batch of songs that seemed to work really well together that had a good, that sort of, yeah, just worked well together. I don't know. It's kind of, you know, you never really know.

5:30I don't know, for me, it's just kind of, if a song works, if you have a batch of songs that don't necessarily fit with something and have their own sort of, I don't know, have their own sort of breathing space, it's good to work on that. For sure. What are the plans for the summer? I know there's a couple of festivals, but you still have to tour Canada. Yeah, we're not, yeah. We're not talking, it's not true. Well, just like wrong thing. We're live, but that's fine. Okay, yeah, yeah. To do. Yeah, we're doing, yeah, in beer. That's right. In beer. Yeah, I don't know. Canada, yeah, we're doing, we're doing like a winter fall, fall into winter touring in Canada, in the US again. So that's kind of, yeah, we're kind of taking the summer,

6:15taking a bit of a break in the summer because we have a lot of stuff in the fall. So we just wanted to kind of take a breather after this tour and just do like a few, we're doing a few like festivals in Canada. Right. The Ottawa Blues Fest is one of them. There's a festival in St. John, New Brunswick. Nice. Cool, East Coast festival. Yeah. And I thought, I don't know, we're just going to do a few things like that and then fall into, fall into the winter, is a pretty like full-on schedule. Cool, well I guess that makes sense of the band name, right? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. Before I let you go though, it is the World Cup that seems to be the big thing right now. Yeah. Who's your pick? What's your winning team do you guys have teams? Ah, I know we're not in a big soccer country with Canada, not even. We were busy with the hockey playoffs. Right. And so we didn't really pick a Montreal-Canadian hat.

7:02Nice. Yeah. That's good. Yeah, I don't know. So we haven't really been following football. I guess the USA. All right. Yeah, they were in the States. Well, they have a chance to. Yeah, it's a nice one. Well, yeah, I don't know if, are they good yet? Are they? I don't know if they have Canadians. We don't know. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's true. I don't know. Yeah, I think I'd vote for a USA. I chose Argentina. So I don't know. But I think it was just kind of like, you sound good. Yeah, yeah. Hard and Brazil is kind of cool. Brazil is always good too. Yeah, that's true. So US are Brazil is what you're going with. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Maybe Germany too. I grew up in Sturman. Oh, well that'll work. Yeah. So I've been to Germany a few times. So maybe Germany too. But US I think is going to do a bit. All right. I guess. Thank you, Paul. All right. Appreciate it. Cheers. Thanks a lot.

Part 2

0:00Give me one sec. I'm just gonna transfer you over. Yeah, for sure. Hey, Tim Yeah, you're on the phone with Matt and it is taped Awesome. Hey, how you doing? Good. How are you doing? I'm good man. Where are you right now? We're in Africa. You like New York Yep, nice. That's that's the site of the movie road trip. Oh Yeah, it's true remember that movie You guys A nice little Tom Green film there. There aren't too many, but that's one of them So you guys are here November 18 starlight What can we expect? I know it's a very basic question, but give me a good answer

0:46Alright What can we expect from the from the show? What can we expect from the show November 18? Well, I mean that I'm sorry. I'm kind of losing the signal here. Oh really? Yeah All right cool. I said November 18 starlight you guys are in town What can we expect from the show the the big East Coast craziness that that every winter sleep show entails that I've seen so far? Yeah, I mean Probably our fourth or maybe fifth time playing the starlight. It's gonna be really fun. We also have a great time in their room

1:35Mm-hmm, and you guys are you guys are in a US tour right now? Well, it's basically it's a Canadian tour But we're dipping down for like three shows in the US just to because we had a little bit of a hole in the schedule So we decided to come down we played Buffalo last night if it got tonight and North Hampton, Massachusetts tomorrow crazy, and then you're on the road. I guess for the rush of the month Yeah, basically we have like a small Small break in between the East Coast and West Coast tours, but not very long cool last I spoke to Paul in All I'm trying to think of when June maybe in Portland possibly June something like that early summer and he had talked about Writing the new record new inheritors on the road last time. It was basically the whole record

2:23You guys basically wrote on the road well you're back on the road again I'm wondering I know some bands have trouble writing on the road some bands are really good at it Yeah, I mean Before we left for for a couple tours we were doing a lot of Still working on these songs and Sam checks and whatever we can so yeah, we're definitely back at it again Really? That's fairly well. I guess you guys recorded the record like a year a year ago but I mean that's What is it? What is the plan? Do you guys want to be like the Beatles and Zeppelin and stuff back in the day releasing records every like six months? That would be great I'm not really possible. I don't think these days, but yeah, I mean if we could I'm sure

3:15Well, do you think it maybe not records then but fine sorry go ahead I were definitely gonna try and maybe do some Recording like fairly fairly in the new year sometime nice you guys still living in Montreal my hometown Yeah, we are what made you what made you move from the east coast Montreal like we kind of move like a couple Us went and then other people Came a bit a bit later on but yeah, we all really really love it there It's a lot more central for New York six hours to Toronto Right

4:01Not having to do that 12-hour drive through New Brunswick the fun road Yeah, very fun. Yeah. Yeah, nothing there I was much real change I guess have you guys even had a chance really to be in Montreal too much or have you been on the road the whole time? I'm wondering how is the city if the vibe has changed the way you guys Think about music at all. I mean, yeah, we have been gone like for most Like whenever we get back like it's always nice to get back and Something about Montreal we all we all really love it there. How's your French coming along? It's pretty good Alright So you're teaching them words

4:50Good good tell me about playing with Paul McCartney last summer that must have been something else It was really cool. Yeah, it was really fun We unfortunately had to leave before You played as set we have to catch a flight to Dublin. Oh, no way well Get the meat of milk you did that's cool. Yeah, did he have any words of advice or anything or was it just a hey? Hello nice to see you kind of thing Opening for him was just a warm-up show for our show in Dublin That's good jumping with Mike jumping with Mike that Us piece players need to stay together. No, that's nice. That's good made him feel special. I'm sure

5:37From that we do something on the show called five questions just five quick questions one more dancers Okay, rotor studio Studio Lenny McCartney What it Most important thing in a song lyrics melody cadence song you've written your most proud of and one word winter sleep What in one word first thing that comes to your mind winter sleep Fun all right cool, man before I let you go. Could I give you could I get you to like do a couple of

6:25Not storytellers, but give me a little bit about a few of the songs that we play that I'll just kind of play before I play the Songs on the show this afternoon So I'm sure give me a little intro to black camera or camera rock as you guys say You throw Paul had like a basic idea for the song and We kind of put it together at a fan check in each other's different land We had a really long sad check and we basically wrote a whole song right there and Yeah, I guess that's like it's able to that nice the new single preservation also came out of one of Paul's

7:10basic I guess but that one kind of kind of came together when we were Rehearsing to go into the studio. We took like a month. I guess like near the end. Oh nice What do you enjoy playing more before I go into another tune guitar keys? Yes guitar, but I really love Love playing cheese as well. What did you start on as a kid? What was your what was your first instrument? I?

7:58Was piano actually yeah, okay. Okay. Why is guitars a more rock and roll a cooler instrument? Yeah? What's all is that both worked out for you Yeah, and of course I got to get a clip of a weighty ghost Yes, you know, I mean, I'm sure I'm sure you've played that to a lot of crowds where everyone's singing along It must be that must be something special when you play it live every time It kind of yeah, it's all definitely Anywhere we go yeah, yeah, the crowd is usually having a really good reaction and fun to see people

8:54all thing along awesome Well, can't wait to see on the 18th man. I always love the winter sleep live show Thank you We're gonna bring it again. I'm sure you will you have never failed me yet, so Awesome and we'll get talking to you and we'll see in a few weeks. All right. Take care. All right take it easy

Part 3

0:00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. North by last time. But now we get to actually talk with the record a little more. Okay. And Martyr. So how come Martyr didn't make the record? Just see. We spent months trying to sequence it. And... Yeah, we just didn't... Couldn't figure out how to sequence it and what to do. It's a little heavier than most of the record, I guess. Yeah, it is. But it's a good standalone tune. Yeah, exactly. I don't know if it's going to be a single, but it's not that for people to hear their plans. No plans. Just getting out there. Yeah, exactly. It's just like, oh, we might as well put it out, I guess, right now. You know, this tour is going on. It's a good company, I guess. It'd be awesome if we could put it on a... Have like...

0:46Like get on a seven inch or something. Like that and the other song. Didn't make it on a father time. What's the other one? Father time, it's called... Okay, is that one where can you find out? I think you can find it. I think you can find it on iTunes or something. I think it's just... Yeah, iTunes. Yeah, yeah, it's not physically released. But I think it'd be cool to make a physical pairing of those two songs. Yeah. I think it would be... Stand alone. It'd be cool. Martyr's a heavy word, because it can be construed in a lot of ways, especially with everything going on across the world right now. So, lyrically, what were you guys thinking? Or what was Paul Fingen on the lyrics, working the band? Is it a group effort? Or is it mostly you hear from Paul? Yeah, exactly. Paul had a lot of that song put together before he came in.

1:34But uh... Yeah, like the... I guess one thing that... Yeah, I mean it's... You'd have to ask him, I guess. But we ended up getting the album title from me this hearing. Well yeah, there's the... Oh! So, no, he says hello home in that song. He says hello, drum. He says hello, drum. See, I miss heard it too. There we go. I wanted to hear it because I knew the title of the record. Oh, he might say... He might have... it was originally hello drum. And I was like, oh, that sounds like hello home. And then that's why we... Right. ...the record is like... It's awesome. But he might have ended up saying hello home. Hey, he probably did. I don't know. I don't know. I can't remember. I thought I said hello home, but maybe it's because I wanted to hear it because I knew the title of the record. Yeah, we recorded... Like, because we haven't been playing that song live. I mean, we're just learning it literally right now back stage. Oh! But uh...

2:19We weren't playing it on this tour or anything. And Mike... Sure. He didn't know the bass line and something like that. So we played bass on the record, he played bass on the record. I played bass on that song. It's a sweet bass tone. Thank you. And you had some sweet fills going on too. Thanks. Yeah. Right on. So you're playing bass and you're half the band, aren't you? Just you. On the... I played... yeah, I played a bunch of stuff on that one. What else do you play on that? Other than drums on the record. I've heard it's on the record. Just like guitar and keyboards and stuff like that. All the way. It was just the three of us that did it. So what did you get to see? That's interesting. Well, at the time Mike wasn't playing with us. He was touring with his other... he plays in another band called Moonface. Right. And so he wasn't around and John was in Halifax and...

3:07I don't know, we ended up writing the record just like with the three of us, because we were the only ones that were around. You know, so... and John was out there. Right. I mean, we always sent him the stuff that we were working on and stuff like that. But when it came time to record, to make the record, it was just financially and everything. It was like, we kind of like decided to just keep it moving the way, you know, keep the momentum that we had between the three of us and not have John come in and like, you know, it would have been cool, but it would have definitely slowed down. You know, you get a lot going, yeah, exactly. Because he would have, you know, he would have had the right spots on the spot and, you know,

3:53it would be like, I think it probably would have slowed things down. It's funny, because I had this similar conversation with Hannah George a couple of weeks ago. Okay. But like, she's got a band. How come you guys are playing on the record? Why don't you bring her guys? She's like, well, the same kind of thing. We just kind of had stuff going. Yeah. Why don't you screw that up? We're not screwing up, but change it, you know. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. When you talk about that experience for a second. That was fun. That was while we were finishing recording the Winter's League record. Graham produced her record and Graham Walsh, and he just asked me if I had to want to play drums on it. I was like, yeah, sure. And I never met her before or anything. I didn't even hear any of her music beforehand. But he's having other demos. And I don't know, we just kind of went down and started working for five days and came together really quickly.

4:40I'm really happy with what. Have you ever stopped? You seem to be very busy. No, I'm not usually. This year has been busy. Yeah, the last six months it's been busy. But I don't know. Yeah, I had time to do that for sure. It only took five days. Is that quick? Oh, you should say it was a week. Yeah, it's like really quick. Yeah, it'd be great if I could do that everywhere. Have you done any other records since then? No. I don't think so. You guys, you've been on the road all summer pretty much. Yeah, we've been on the road all summer pretty much. It's a little break and no backos. Yeah, yeah, we've been out since like September 9th, I think. Right. We started touring. We did, we started in Europe. We started in Amsterdam and finished in like Manchester.

5:26We were in there for three weeks. We just had a few days off and started in St. Johns and the other, like, forget the beginning of the week I guess. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday I think that's what we were there. We played the pop explosion and then we were here. And then, yeah, we keep going until like November 20th we finished at LA. U.S. or? Yeah, like back and forth. Right. What was Paul said something? He hoped that this record would bring you guys around the U.S. Has it? I saw, yeah, I mean, yeah. We already went down a may, I guess. It was just as the record was coming out. And yeah, we're not necessarily playing every place that we've ever played there. Like, we're not hitting at all the spots that we've been to, but we're definitely doing

6:14like, you know, like the upside down U. Yeah, it's like, yeah, no, it'll be good. I know it's good to go back there soon after like, because we were, yeah, we were just there in the summer slash in the spring. So, yeah, so I mean, hopefully we get to go back and on. We just need the right excuse tonight, I guess. Yeah, double or something like that. Yeah, yeah, but it's really fun trying to tell you to prove that it's a different vibe. They're more of like a routine. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, it's cool. I think it's a neat pairing in that sense where it's like, it's kind of, you know, refreshing. Like, it's not like, oh, you know, it's not like, I don't know, like, it's not like going to like,

7:01a pop-punk show or something. Yeah, actually, you know, it's like, I think it's good for the palate, I guess. Yeah, it'll change up. It exposes our fans to, you know, a different sort of thing maybe than they listen to and vice versa. So, I think it's cool. It's encouraging to share that, you know, just kind of, you know, give people, you know, a more rounded build than just like more of the same thing else. I think we all around the build, this record sounds a lot different than the last two. A lot of percussive sounds, a lot of synth sounds, a lot of, like, it's, it's a, I don't want to say it's a fuller record, but there's certainly more layers going on. Yeah, definitely more layers. We just had a lot more time to mess around in the studio when we were in, because we went to Dave for the Mins studio.

7:47He's the Flaminglips, Flaminglips, F U of T and he's got tons of toys. And, yeah, we, we were there for six weeks and we had all this time in Studio B, which is like, which was just basically like us recording stuff. I think you told me it was last time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I mean, I just kind of went nuts with stuff. I just like any... Any toy you just picked up like... Any idea that I had and I mean, obviously some were... I think I self, you know, I knew when... I knew when I knew maybe like, loads of Latin percussion on the stuff wasn't a good idea, but, you know, there was lots and... There was endless opportunity to try different things, so I think it benefited from that.

8:33I mean, definitely, Martyr's like, has loads of like... I think we put like, Tiffany's on that and stuff. So, and yeah, yeah, it was a really fun way to build this. How'd you get this near sound on what I write down? Let's smoke. Let's smoke. It's like, well, it's like reeds. Oh, yeah, it's like... It like reeds, like, I don't know, they're like the sticks that are clumped together. Yeah, yeah. It's like those and it's just like this girl snare that I had and just tuned it really high. Not tuning high. It sounds different. It makes the trickier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. As a quote, it pops. Yeah, I was doing it with brushes before and it didn't sound... It didn't have as nice of a voice thing as one thing.

9:19I'm happy with throwing that turned out for sure. Yeah. But it, yeah, all this stuff got recorded pretty quickly, though, like, especially drums. Like, drums definitely didn't take long to do. The song, I was listening to resuscitate and I started thinking like, it doesn't sound like someone could have come in with an acoustic with that tune and had it done. And be like, let's layer everything over. It sounds like you guys would have been playing together and Tim will come up with a riff and drop it over, beat that you're doing. Is that how they're written or is it... No, it depends. That song in particular is like another... It was a song that I was working on just by myself and I played for the... Like, it was the second... There's just two chords. It's just like an A at first and then before I had it tuned to a D, so it was a bit more dissonant sounding and then Paul tuned the top string to a G.

10:09It's a bit more major sounding. So, yeah, I don't know. That's basically the whole time. It's just those two chords back and forth and just kind of dropping things in and out, pushing and pulling. And then the end of the song was more of a... When we started to jam it as a band, it was kind of like, oh, it's like... This idea to kind of like have this... Then there was like a few other parts that just like a cut. There was like a half time bit with like a different riff that... You can hear the listen to the demo and it's like... You know, it's the essence of the songs there, but it's like... Yeah, we tried to like...

10:54It's got to be a record. Yeah, it's a four minute song. I'll try to make a little bit less soft and dawg in a minute. Yeah, I also don't want to talk about... Someone somewhere. It's very different. Because the Beach Boys Ooh, and you've got like the wood blocks going on. Yeah, yeah. That was what that's in. That was way... Yeah, that's a lot. We did an alternate recording of that, that we did live with kind of like more like waltzy kind of feeling. But yeah, again, that... That one... I put a bunch of stuff on that after the fact. Like a lot of electronic drums and stuff like that. Yeah, the way... When we first heard that coming back from Dave's mix, it was like... Whoa! This is crazy. Yeah, because the real drums just enter in the second chorus.

11:41Sure. So it's very late. He really originally played drums. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He really built it. Yeah, like the way that it... Hey, the way that it mixed it, he... Hey, really like... Like ramps it up near the end. Yeah, it was cool. Like he was really excited about the textures on that particular song, and all those extra bits, so he wanted to use them. But yeah, I mean the essence of that song is very, very simple and it turned into something that sounded a lot more electronic in the end. Just by... Yeah, again, just doing stuff on... Just by... At like 5 a.m. Well, that's a cool, like having like an endless amount of time to dial in, like, since sound or like...

12:27With the arpeggiation on that, you know, that was really kind of like a... Driving. But unfortunately we haven't been able to play that one long. We tried. We did it the other day, like just like kind of more acoustically for like a session, but... Yeah, it's kind of difficult to... So far. Right. I'm sure we can pull it on. I keep naming tunes and letting you talk about them. Why don't you... What's when you want to talk about? What are some cool stories from the studio? What do you want me to keep going? Yeah. You want to hear my thoughts? I'd rather hear your thoughts. I like this. You bring things out of me. All right. No was Ark and came to flood. Yeah. It's an interesting topic to breach. Yeah, that's true. I guess you were at the lyrics though. Yeah, I didn't read them. I just thought it was cool, right?

13:13Yeah. There's a quote. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I do what you do. But yeah, no, it's cool. Yeah, it's cool. When you play. Yeah. You know, he added the visuals, the images to lyrics, which is a... I really like that. Creating a piece of music that is fundamentally... You think it's going to be instrumental and then somebody has a really good idea for the melody. I don't know. I find it's perfect. I guess that's why we're in a band together. It works. I want to go back to you saying you play guitar on bass. So what did you pick up first? What did you start? Guitar. So when your dreams come in?

13:59I just sort of necessity just out of not having... Not having... There was no... I don't know. We started bands like... Well, when I was growing up, I was in bands since I was in grade seven or something like that. I was growing up instruments. Yeah, but there was no half decent drummers really. I just knew that I couldn't... I was a big fan of drummers, but could never convince my guys to get... Let me have a drum set. But yeah, we were just recording one of the first four track that I ever did with a band and I ended up re-doing the drummer that we had parts. Right. Very good. So that's kind of when I just started playing drums more.

14:44Cool. More as like... Just because it's... It's a good thing for me to do. It seems to be working. Hannah said you're one of the best in the country. Right on. Before I let you go, looks like you got to wrap up. Five quick questions, one more answers. Grotor Studio. Studio. Leonard or McCartney. Harrison. When you hear a song usually hits you first, lyrics, melody or rhythm? Melody? That's it? Question mark. Melody? It depends on the song. Fair enough. Song you've written your most proud of. I don't know. Okay. Favorite song to play live? Or one you're most excited to play tonight? Tonight? I don't know what's on the set list, but...

15:30Recessive is always really fun. Cool. Yeah. Hums fun too. They're all really fun, but those are a bit more like just like completely... super confident. Really? Just like I know this is gonna be cool. Cool. In one word, winter sleep. Oh, she's like... Banned? Banned question mark. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Thank you man.