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Audio interview · March 2013 · Toronto

Cadence Weapon

Rolli Pemberton aka Cadence Weapon (House Music, When It's Real) chats with Matt Schichter in Toronto.

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Episode #489 · Cadence WeaponMarch 2013 · 00:15:24

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0:00So the records out now, last time we talked, the record wasn't out and you were still kind of like putting the finishing touches on it. Does it? How, why is that? Have you been, I guess you've been busy? Mm-hmm.

1:04So in the zone doing other stuff, is that stuff you want to talk about? Are you, are you working on a new record? Are you working on different kinds of projects? Okay. Interesting. So, I was, I was looking at your Twitter when I was preparing for this and I saw Argo the other day. So, is watching a movie like that or any piece of film or art or whatever have you? Does that inspire you to create art of that nature or art of a different nature? Like, is it inspire you to make music videos? Does it inspire you to write lyrics about something? That's interesting.

2:41Um, do, do beats inspire lyrics? Do lyrics inspire beats? Like when you, when you, when you gain that inspiration from things like, like this weekend, for example, is that, is that pushing you towards writing words or creating sounds? Everything you know, I think. I don't want to talk about, oh, hype man, I want to, I want to get a little plug in because you got a new video for hype man.

3:56Yeah. Um, so that's it, but like the, I don't know what to call it. Like the shadow economy in, in hip hop. Like it's, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly, that's a great way of putting it. It's such a different, like it's not the flavour, flavour kind of hype man though. When does Cadence Weapon get to that level of having hype men?

4:42I didn't think you were. And how does that work in the hip hop world? Because there's, well, maybe, and you know what, I'm, I'm going to say this and I'm probably totally wrong saying this. There's not many people that do it that way, even though I'm sure there are, but the ones that come out in the mainstream culture always do have that group surrounding. Yeah. So I don't know where my question was going, but I guess, why don't we have that as much in Canada or do we? And why is that something in the hip hop culture? There's my question.

5:34Okay. Why is that something we see in the hip hop culture and not in other musical genres? Yeah. You gotta be careful.

6:25So the record is called Hope and Dirt City and I love, I mean, I lived in Edmonton for a couple of years and I love that it's become, that is now escaping the city. Like people, like, I mean, Colleen Brown, put out a record called Dirt, you got Hope and Dirt City, it's become this thing. But I hear, you know, you moved to Montreal midway through the process to make the record. So how come you still titled it after Edmonton? So on the next record, we're going to hear like French hooks and things like that because now you're in Montreal.

7:53Oh, yes, of course. I'm sorry. Yes. That was a stupid question. Bring off what you just said. Have you learned French last time we spoke? You hadn't learned French. We do some called five questions. We did this last time, but we'll do it again. Five quick questions. One more answers. Roder Studio. Landoner McCartney. Parker Biggie. When you hear a song, what usually hits you first, lyrics, melody or rhythm.

8:43Song you've written, you're most proud of. Cool. And in one word, cadence weapon. Oh, that's a good one. Thank you so much, man. I really appreciate it. So you must have played CMW a few times back in the day when you were getting started out. Like, what, what did it do to help you? Did you meet people in the label world? Did you meet people to tour with? Like, what did it do for you business wise? Yeah.

10:23So how does this set change then when it's a showcase show as opposed to a cadence weapon? Show. Yeah. OK. Are there certain songs that work better in those environments than others? That's interesting.

11:10So the panel on songwriting, I guess you'll talk about, especially while the way that I know you said you're creating this new record differently, but, but I mean, the way you did the last one was really cool of taking. You know, you make a record, then you bring it to a band, they interpret it, and then you interpret it in a different way. So maybe you talk about the creation of that idea because that is something way out there. And do you play anything or did you just give ideas to the band and say, kind of direct them like like a, like a maestro almost?

12:26OK. Now, do you see a musician will always bring their own flair though? Like a bass player is a bass player, but they'll play it in their own way. The drummer has his own groove and his own vibe too. So did you let them kind of experiment or did you stick, kind of stick to the original plan and kind of not veer from that? You know, you see your uncle played sax?

13:24That must have been really cool. Like, you know, to collaborate with a family member, that doesn't happen every day. And what about when it comes to singing, there's more singing on the record than I think I've ever heard of it. Like even the last single conditioning, like just the way, I don't know, it's like a scream singing. It's like, but it's perfect, man. So where do the confidence come to try and sing? Well, is this something you want to do more of?

14:35Like taking vocal lessons and kind of perfecting that side of the music? No, but I'm big. Oh, yeah. Well, hopefully we'll hear that soon. I'd like to hear that. That'd be cool. Yeah. It'd be different. We can bring a whole new vibe to the shows, that's for sure. Yeah, definitely. I might have to like throw it wearing a suit. Yeah, exactly. The purple lights and bringing it all slow, you know. That's great. Give me my Rakele. Five on. Yeah, but no peeing on the audience. That's not, that's not, it'll help.

15:21Of course.

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